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Creado 12/03/2008 11:57

Simple poll

Hi, since i think the majority of this forum comes from India, i would like to ask you this.
Which one you will choose:
1. Waiting for German Citizenship then secured indian OCI, and go to England.
2. Waiting for German Citizenship, secured OCI then stay in Germany.
3. Apply for England HSMP and leave Germany (without securing citizenship).
4. Stay as NE and work as usual.
5. Go back to home country.

Which one will you choose?
Of course i don't expect only Indian, but indian offers OCI which other countries may not have the same.

Thanks.

sidoriva1

Usuario desde 03/03/2008

 

Creado 14/03/2008 12:09

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@deathinc

>>And if what u have written is influenced with ur personal experiance then dont gernalise it here.

I dont hear anyone complain when Germans generalise and say Indians are very good in IT, which is not always the case.

sometimes brickbats instead of bunch of roses makes us stay on ground instead of flying in the air.

So dont get offended and try to defend each and every critisicm you get about your country

>>but except some regions its quite peaceful

Do you read the newspapers regularly ?? Which state in india doesnt have problems?

raj

Usuario desde 27/01/2004

 

Creado 14/03/2008 12:34

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I wonder what is the objective of this thread
To lift India or Degrade India.

Sometimes i feel you guys go off the topic.
That too talking about the negatives of other countries esp India.

have a nice weekend.
S

savion

Usuario desde 23/04/2004

 

Creado 14/03/2008 14:51

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@deathinc,

I am not aware if you have some experience of living and working in india and is not a mere tourist who visit india becuase they think it huge and very different and clourful and difeerent people. From the time I am working here in Germany, I have been to india for 3-6 months of projects at several occasions ( other than my private vacations, to meet my family and loved ones). Since i know how the system works, i get easily adapted to it, BUT i observe and expereince that my German colleagues not looking very comfortable beucase in office and outside office, nothing works what they used to. They really enjoy their stay for few days but look desperate to return to Germany. I can see that even they dont feel comfortable driving/walking on the roads, not able to sleep peacefully becuase there are no norms of noice pollution and some other minor things, its business as usaual for me. So, for most its a perfect place to spend cheap vacations and meet surprises, but not a plcae to live and work. Nothing works with law, there is corruption everywhere. Only money and power speaks.

subir79

Usuario desde 16/07/2007

 

Creado 14/03/2008 16:14

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@Akshay
Most of us work here to make their career,save some money,take care of dear ones and after few years return to India.In India with money one can live luxuries life with servants, driver, gardner etc which is a dream here.Those Family and Friends who boast in society of you being abroad are really not good Family and Friends,if you only have such dear ones then i feel sorry for you.
Always remember even if you live here for 50yrs with German citizenship still you will always be a Auslander.Also if your kids get educated here or England they will never learn the cultural values which we learn living in India.

@subir
Its true that the system is corrupt but everyone takes advantage of that.I beleive you are from India and not from Darfur,Afganisthan or Iraq.What you exactly mean by India is not a peaceful place?If it's not peaceful how you got good education and come over here for work,how your parents could live in India?If you got some experience living in Berlin then you would have never said this.

Don't want to go off the topic.I would say get NE,HSMP,OCI or Citizenship whatever makes you and your dear ones happy.But never forget your roots and the place where you come from.

prasadp

Usuario desde 10/03/2008

 

Creado 14/03/2008 18:22

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@prasadp,

other than making money for your car, servant and gardner etc, please make sure that you also do saving to bribe . Make sure that you break the law and still escape though bribe. If someone hit you on the road make sure that you are much more powerful than the culprit and have good connections, else legal system not going to work.

Do you think only war can disturb you?

http://www.ndtv.co...default.aspx?id=24660

Look at these as* h**le politicians, breeding many countries within single India. I am lucky that I am not a immigrant to Mumbai, and enjoying my freedom and work.

subir79

Usuario desde 16/07/2007

 

Creado 14/03/2008 23:31

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@subir79
Do u want to make india to have a europian standerd so that ur german collegeue will enjoy life there? sorry if that is the defination of peace according to u then i dont have to say too much on ur childish thoughts.

Well subir79 what u r looking for is a heaven with full of saints.
Crimes r going on everywhere .Corruption is everywhere and in germany also.
I agree that in india its more.but india is also much bigger.

But that point dosent disqualify india as peaceful state.

@prasadp
>>Always remember even if you live here for 50yrs with German citizenship still you will always be a Auslander.Also if your kids get educated here or England they will never learn the cultural values which we learn living in India.
--
Well im not agree with u also.

Its all depends on ur believes in ur mind,if u believe like that,then this certainly gonna happen to u and u cant change it, nobody cant change it coz u dont want to change ur belives..U go the point??

deathinc

Usuario desde 03/06/2005

 

Creado 15/03/2008 14:17

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@deathinc,

>>Do u want to make india to have a europian standerd so that ur german collegeue will enjoy life there?>>

Sure!! not only germans, but I would like to see people from across the globe together with over one billion my countrymen woking together and living in prosperity.

>>Crimes r going on everywhere .Corruption is everywhere and in germany also>>

TWO WRONGS doesnt make ONE RIGHT.

subir79

Usuario desde 16/07/2007

 

Creado 15/03/2008 21:15

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@subir79

This thread has turned into something else as reason started. You are obsolutly right, india is very corrupt and there is no peace there.

@indians

Could you please stop entertraining these kinda !diotic thoughts? Sorry for any indians feel gets offended due to following comments.

@subir79

Legend :
"" -> your comments
> -> my comments

"From the time I am working here in Germany, I have been to india for 3-6 months
of projects at several occasions ( other than my private vacations, to meet my family and loved ones)."

> So you travelled as tourist and donot have any realistic idea, how did you come to know about corruption, did your dad / grand parents were involved?

"Since i know how the system works, i get easily adapted to it"

> So were you part of that? or your parents / grand parents?

"BUT i observe and expereince that my German colleagues not looking very comfortable beucase in office and outside office,
nothing works what they used to. They really enjoy their stay for few days but look desperate to return to Germany"

> You are commenting on our country men? that is quite different than your thoughts. So cross-check is needed!

"I can see that even they dont feel comfortable driving/walking on the roads"

> Hence you should never walk/drive in that country, though you've option in that country
to hire flight or helicopter with body guards.

"not able to sleep peacefully becuase there are no norms of noice pollution and some other minor things, its business as usaual for me"

> I guess you are right, my grand parents who are already dead and the people who live in Utopia comment the same way.

"So, for most its a perfect place to spend cheap vacations and meet surprises, but not a plcae to live and work."

> Why do you want to get to cheap vacations, when you think live in Utopia? and why do you want to live and work, when you already live in Utopia or Your Heaven!

"Nothing works with law"

> It's non sense comment, when you could'nt provide an example!

"is corruption everywhere"

> They don't pay 50% of their earnings i guess. You sh!t out over 50% and make such lunatic comments?

"Only money and power speaks"

> Could you please tell me the country where it does not? If not why the he*k did you get in here? just for same reason?

"other than making money for your car, servant and gardner etc, please make sure that you also do saving to bribe"

> Hence you make money to sh!t out over 50% tax in your Utopia?

"Make sure that you break the law and still escape though bribe"

> Could you count, how many time you break or broke?

"If someone hit you on the road make sure that you are much more powerful than the culprit and have good connections, else legal system not going to work"

> Hence you pay insurence in here to do that?

"Do you think only war can disturb you?"

> No, even base ball bats can disturb as well, when you live in Utopia or livin along with my grand parents!

"Look at these as* h**le politicians, breeding many countries within single India. I am lucky that I am not a immigrant to Mumbai,
and enjoying my freedom and work"

> I don't want ro privide any links about politicians. It's goin to be endless, if i start! You could search yourself. There is search
engine called google and yahoo have good lisitngs about your Heaven.

"Sure!! not only germans, but I would like to see people from across the globe together with over one billion my countrymen woking together and living in prosperity."

> But when they don't want it? why should they accept your single view?

> "TWO WRONGS doesnt make ONE RIGHT"

In our country one wrong is wrong as well not accepted.

------------------------
You have not idea what you are talking about your country and history?
where did you study in india by the way?

Here are my thoughts! I'd been to india many occations and lead team
which works in india and i'm not an indian.

That is the country which has been ripped-off for almost 400 years by
so called in your way "non-corrupted", "well behaved", "rich", "developed"
Utopia and your beloved countries where you are being given chance due to
the history of this country?

How mich more bribe you paid compared to the TAX you pay in here?

How many hours in your country, our politicians could rule with peace? and
without being corrupt?

How many religions live peacefully in your country compared to Germany and
what more percentage you've got? and without being wire tapped?

You say as if we donot have any crime? what do you think of eastern bloc mafia?
or religios extreamism?

How much you know about our (German) history? and what do you think where you
could be if not?

I don't know, but your writings gives your country men (including Indian cow-boys)
to take dare action (sp!t on your FaaC*) i guess, though i find them funny.

At last! could you please name the City / Village you live in? I would invest
sometime to investigate and get you the reality of your Utopia.

I really expect comments from you. I'd three weekes of vacations and have lot energy
to have dog fight as you do and want.

Finally i'm happy that you pay TAX to my country making us rich or atlest to feel rich It's no wonder that you can't repair your country and repair ours and thank you for doint that.

Instructor!

instructor

Usuario desde 01/09/2005

 

Creado 16/03/2008 8:37

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Hello everybody,

when i started this thread, i just want to ask for opinions from everybody about the choice that one possibly takes.
The reason to take indians as example is because the majority of participants are from india. Nothing more and nothing less. I said also that other nationalities feel free to participate.

Here i don't want to put some countries in bad image or anything, nothing at all. I am so sorry that this thread went that way.

So, i know each people has different choice and different reason. It will be good if others also respect it.

So, can we restart the poll? otherwise please close this thread.

sidoriva1

Usuario desde 03/03/2008

 

Creado 16/03/2008 13:30

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@intrusion='instructor'

>>I really expect comments from you. I'd three weekes of vacations..... and bla bla bla ....<<

Looks like your boss is happy not to see you in office, if he can allow three weeks vacation for you then you are redundant and the best candidate to lay off... Be prepared to return back to your grand parents.

I dont want any response from you, but your motive seem to discourage others not to live and work at place what they consider good for their future.Dont spit your crap any further... you dont deserve any response.

subir79

Usuario desde 16/07/2007