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WARNING: Non-EU Citizens Coming Germany to Work.
Creado 30/08/2009 22:37
WARNING: Non-EU Citizens Coming Germany to Work.
All those who are thinking to come Germany to work think before you make your decision else you will regret and feel helpless someone taking away your rightful money with the shameful bureaucracy.
Here is an example may be many are not aware or will not know unless face the situation themself.
When one start to work in Germany,we are bound to pay unemployment insurance(Arbeitlosenversicherung) money form our salary every month the reason behind that is one can survive when become jobless due to unfortunate circumstances.
But there are many hidden things behind this.
1. To get that money as Arbeitslosgeld when one is unemployed one need to have a valid visa.
2. (Not always but as in Germany all things are dependent on the mood of the person sitting on the other side of the desk at the govt. departments and also from state to state although the Arbeitsamt is a single body for whole Germany) Many have faced this too, that to get unemployment benefit the Arbeitsamt will tell that to get unemployment benefit the visa should not be company dependent, in other words one should have a visa that allows one to work for any employer.
Now the shameful German bureaucracy:
1. There are many who come here on limited contract and then too they pay the unemployment benefit. So for example Mr./Ms. X after working 12-24 month the company say they have economic problems so they can't extend the contract, and at the present situation Mr./Ms X don't get a new job. So the arbeitsamt says they can get unemployment benefit only with valid visa and the shame is the Auslandersbehorde(Foreign Office) says they can give visa only if Mr./Ms X have a job offer, else they have to leave Germany.
2. The Arbeitsamt knows very well that the visa does not become company independent before a person works 24 months atleast or have given taxes for 24 months combining some other jobs which will not be the case if one come Germany first time only to work. So if they can only give Arbeitslosgeld only to people with company independent visa then why do they take the unemployment insurance money in the first 24 months.
All people here talk so much about so many things. We were hired by European companies because they could not find a candidate in whole EU(As per law to hire non-EU) and then we being given highly qualified job visa, and suddenly after 2 years asked to leave.
So all highly qualified people whoever can be in the same situation in future be careful that Germany can take our legal money with its shameful bureaucracy and we could do nothing.
And All those who are thinking to come Europe(especially Germany) to work, be careful that if you suddenly loose job, you will be bound to leave the country the same day your visa expires, leaving behind your money and your right to get the unemployment insurance money,which you gave for this bad day, without knowing that there is such shameful bureaucracy behind it.
ritrits
Usuario desde 19/06/2007
Creado 31/08/2009 13:46
Re: WARNING: Non-EU Citizens Coming Germany to Work.
@rit
I think it is you who are shouting. Rules are Rules, if you dont like you can pack your bags. Each govt can make their own rules according to the situation facing the country. Either you agree with it and stay put or disagree and leave. Dont talk about injustice as it is part and parcel of every country. Now you talk about ALG and rules, but how did u come across them?
@akshay
Better get back to your old sarcastic self. Eitherway people start bashing you whatever you write. Better to be yourself and face the music than trying to moderate your comments and still face the music 
raj
Usuario desde 27/01/2004
Creado 31/08/2009 13:48
Re: WARNING: Non-EU Citizens Coming Germany to Work.
@raj2001
ALG is never given to people having job. So you first learn the system.
ritrits
Usuario desde 19/06/2007
Creado 31/08/2009 13:50
Re: WARNING: Non-EU Citizens Coming Germany to Work.
@ritrits
Does life insurance pay if one does suicide even if they have paid the insurance life long? Who made that rule and why? That same thing applies for your ALG. There are rules that you cannot get ALG even if you paid for it. simple logic.
Anyways these Socialversicherung are not insurances in the English sense. It is a socialist way of distributing.
Ever heard of preexisting conditions in regards to Healthinsurance where health insurances do not cover for that particular illness
raj
Usuario desde 27/01/2004
Creado 31/08/2009 13:52
Re: WARNING: Non-EU Citizens Coming Germany to Work.
@raj
yes that y I warned all future people that if they are coming Germany thinking that they have better security in no job condition..then they are wrong.
ritrits
Usuario desde 19/06/2007
Creado 31/08/2009 13:54
Re: WARNING: Non-EU Citizens Coming Germany to Work.
2raj
I think you did not understand the post.
In the post I mentioned no where of not being paid ALG.
Better read it first before jumping like an illogical fool without any logical reasoning
ritrits
Usuario desde 19/06/2007
Creado 31/08/2009 14:02
Re: WARNING: Non-EU Citizens Coming Germany to Work.
@ritrits
well f*** as**... that attacked me personally. Read your fucking post where you go round and round about not getting ALG. What other topic did u cover in your post?
raj
Usuario desde 27/01/2004
Creado 31/08/2009 14:19
Re: WARNING: Non-EU Citizens Coming Germany to Work.
@raj
F--- Y-U....
Well why the fuck it hurts you.
Its a circumstance and I made all aware got it you illogical fool.
I don't need ALG because its never given to someone already in job.
ritrits
Usuario desde 19/06/2007
Creado 31/08/2009 14:20
Re: WARNING: Non-EU Citizens Coming Germany to Work.
You post is good but u have no basic idea of Germany Work Law,so please visit your Visa office and make it clear.one intresting this is if you leave germanyyou can apply for the refund off money from ALG so its a kind off saving.By the way on off the Replys was right you come here to work you atleast own more that what you do in your country.
ramadugu
Usuario desde 06/08/2009
Creado 31/08/2009 14:25
Re: WARNING: Non-EU Citizens Coming Germany to Work.
>>Well why the fuck it hurts you.
Well by calling me illogical fool, what did u think would do?
>>Its a circumstance and I made all aware got it
you illogical fool.
So fool, why not stand in front of the airports in india and germany and make it more aware.
>>I don't need ALG because its never given to
someone already in job.
thats good. otherwise good riddance
@ramadugu
You dont get your ALG payement back.
raj
Usuario desde 27/01/2004
Creado 31/08/2009 14:29
Re: WARNING: Non-EU Citizens Coming Germany to Work.
@ritrits
Whats your problem and what exactly you want.Simple you worked here for past 2years with the dream of claiming ALG sitting at home after your contract finishes but you did not know that only you can get ALG after you work more than 2years so now you are frustrated.
I did not say you get ALG when you have a job,i said you better find a job and work for more than 2years whatever is the rule and then sit home and claim.
You are the kind of guy who pay medical Insurance and only to claim the money will make yourself sick 
Why don't you spend your time looking for a job or packing your things instead of wasting your time here and please don't post such kind of stupid warning messages to take out your frustration.
raj2001
Usuario desde 10/06/2008
