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Average salary of a new graduate in the year 2012
Creado 24/12/2011 16:04
Average salary of a new graduate in the year 2012
Hi All,
I have completed Masters in Analog IC design and seeking opportunities in this field.
1. Could someone please let me know the average starting salry for new graduate in Germany who does Analog IC design?
Regards
Ra
20tech12
Usuario desde 24/12/2011
Creado 28/12/2011 7:54
Re: Average salary of a new graduate in the year 2012
Here is the IG Metall tariff chart which BIG companies like Infineon follow:
http://www.igmetal...all_xcms_26107__2.pdf
In companies following this tarif system salary USUALLY works as following:
Base salary
+
Erfolgsbeteiligung (usually paid out monthly)
+
Urlaubsgeld (once per year)
+
Weihnachtsgeld (once per year)
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= Total compensation package
EG10b or if you are very lucky EG11a is where you would start so you could get BASE SALARY 3881x12=46572 or 4083x12=48996
+
URLAUBSGELD (kind of vacation money)
approximately 1 x 70% of 1 months base salary (usually paid out once per year) = approx. € 2700 per year
+
Erfolgsbeteiligung (Kind of fixed performance bonus of aproximately 14% of a years salary usually paid out every month) = approx € 6500 per year
SO all in all I come to about 55700 if you start in 10b or 58000 in 11a.
Depending on the how good or bad the company pays, they might try to put you in 10a which would mean some 3000 less. So about 53000.
Please also note that companies also might pay Weihnachtsgeld (Christmas bonus) or might add it into the performance bonus. I have not calculated this in. It is a one time amount usually starts with 25-30% of your monthly salary and goes uptp 60-75% of your one months salary.
supersid
Usuario desde 26/07/2010
Creado 28/12/2011 10:07
Re: Average salary of a new graduate in the year 2012
Hi Supersid,
I have started my carrier as a fresh graduate student in one of the company that you have mentioned above in germany long time ago.
These company normally has their own HAUSTARIF group(which in most of the case slightly better than IG metal tarif).
BUT they have a standard:
- fresh graduate (no working experience at all) ONLY start from which class
- PHD graduate fresh - ONLY start from which class
and believe me, I haven't started with 55K salary that time.
The table that you have attached is nice but be aware that fresh graduate is not in the EG13!!!!!!
If I am not mistaken, EG 13 is for person person with degree and working experience more than 8 years in the same field!
Plus im Münich, apartment cost is so expensive that 3-5K different brutto per year I will expect. Otherwise there is no point to work there.
VP_2004
Usuario desde 15/11/2004
Creado 28/12/2011 11:23
Re: Average salary of a new graduate in the year 2012
surprisingly, the IG Metal tarif of EG11 for Hamburg is higher than Bavaria!
Supersid should be lucky to get that pay as a fresh graduate. After my master degree here, I started with around 40K in Hamburg and so most of my friends. Highest was 45K (Munich) and lowest was 36K (Hamburg). This was 5 years back.
Cheers
samind
Usuario desde 19/04/2009
Creado 28/12/2011 15:10
Re: Average salary of a new graduate in the year 2012
Hi,
Supersid
Thank you very much for this detailed information and also for your suggestion!.
Samind,
I got a Q as if some one can earn 45K , 5 years ago, could that be something around 50-55K currently?
Also I believe everyone is referring to analog VLSI industy!!
Cheers
20tech12
20tech12
Usuario desde 24/12/2011
Creado 28/12/2011 15:15
Re: Average salary of a new graduate in the year 2012
VP_2004
Well I didnt write EG 13 for fresh graduate 
Bavaria has only upto EG12.
Yes you are right about salaries in Bayern being higher which I mentioned in one of the posts.
Infineon for example uses IG Metall ERA tariff and pays somethings more than IG Metall. Earlier they used IG Metall normal tarif and after ERA was started salaries didnt worsen.
I started in 2006 as a fresh graduate in Bayern where IG Metall tariff was applicable and not a Haustariff but this differs company to company as you know. Me and my fellow starters started with approx. 55K including Urlaubsgeld etc. And I was not an exception.
So with due respect to you VP_2004, probably things just changed over the last couple of years in the semiconductor industry. Or we are in different states or we are talking about completely different timeframes.
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SAMIND
You probably didnt start at a company with a tariff system or you have a degree from Fachhochschule. About 6 years back Infineon put university graduates in 6.1 and fachhochschule graduates in 5.1 with zero work-experience.
Yes Hamburg EG11 is higher than Bayern EG11. But I am not surprised because EG11 in Hamburg is the highest level possible and EG12 is the highest in Bayern.
But anyway, this is not the point of discussion now.
supersid
Usuario desde 26/07/2010
Creado 28/12/2011 17:05
Re: Average salary of a new graduate in the year 2012
so, you know what I have said about the 6.1 and 5.1. I started luckily with 6.2 but at that time, when I compared Muenchen 6.1 and my state 6.1 there is only 300-400 brutto different.
however, it was in old time. Nowaday people get less paid, unfortunately 
.
So 55K as the beginning isn't reasonable.
VP_2004
Usuario desde 15/11/2004
Creado 28/12/2011 17:32
Re: Average salary of a new graduate in the year 2012
@Supersid
I was a TU graduate. but you are right, I was not under tarifvertrag, but my salary roughly reflected current EG8 Grundstufe.
PS: regarding the highest level. Even EG12 stufe B of Bayern is less than EG11 grundstufe of Hamburg area!
Cheers
Samind
samind
Usuario desde 19/04/2009
Creado 28/12/2011 18:40
Re: Average salary of a new graduate in the year 2012
@VP2004
Ofcourse salaries change and I know that change from IG metall to ERA hurt some. I also agree that I dont know exact Masters graduate salaries at Infineon now. At the same time, I know some PHD graduates 0 work ex earning 65K in two tarif companies in Munich region.
Lets say a person joins without PHD, ie University Masters. Dont you think that -10K would be fine as an offset?
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Consulting salaries are rather correct which I mentioned btw. I am quite uptodate with the salaries there.
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@SAMIND
Yeah, you are right Hamburg EG11 is higher than
Bayern EG12. Just saw it
But I doubt that this indicates anything about the salary levels in two states. I also think we cant objectively compare the salaries between the two states. The factors which affect it are too many.
BTW, even in Bayern you can be in EG11 and earn more than EG12 based on your seniority.
supersid
Usuario desde 26/07/2010
Creado 02/01/2012 10:16
Re: Average salary of a new graduate in the year 2012
@ supersid
One can not start in EG10b at least with Siemens. In small cities they offer 9a and in Munich like cities it is 10a after one year one jumps automatically to b.
14% Erfolgsbeteiligung is only possible after 6 months probation. So for a fresh grauduate it is not 55K in the beginnig but yes after one year it is possible.
And one remains in same EG class untill his/her responsibilites are changed dramatically. Else the salary rise after one year follows inflation or anuall negotiaions with companies by IG Metal.
Senority does not matter any more. EG tariff are according to your responsibility. Which means a person working in EG10 since 10 years would withdraw the same salary as a fresh graduate after one year of working (if he/she is also in EG10).
That's a fact and a reason why many employers are not happy about Metal tarrif.
In Germany fresh graduate salaries are higher but with time the rise in salary is not so strong because simply EG class is not changed.
tonygill
Usuario desde 25/10/2009
