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Posted on 14/05/2010 12:47 pm

valid visa for arbeitlosengeld

Dear all,
I was working here in Germany since 2006. I payed all the insurance in these years.Now I just completed my previous job (my visa also ended) and I am searching a new one. I went to the arbeitsamt and they said I need a valid visa to get ALG money. Currently I am having fiktionbeschinigung and I can change it to spouse dependent visa. My question is, am I allowed to get the ALG with fiktionbeschinigung ? Can I apply it now ? or I am wondering whether I can get this money with dependent visa ? Is it possible ?
Please guide me.

bigloser

Member since 14/05/2010

 

Posted on 19/05/2010 11:37 pm

Re: valid visa for arbeitlosengeld

Hello there,

Can you give some more information, about your previous Work permit (WP)- Does it allow you to work any where in Germany or was it allowed only to work in your ex-company ?

I am almost in a similar situation, but I have this work permit to work any where in Germany and my visa is about to expire in a months time. My Company's lawyer informed me that , since I have this WP to allow work any wherem I am eligible for getting the ARbeitlosengeld I and with this support I can extend my visa as long as I get the Arbeitlosengeld I.

How ever, if you have a Fiktionbescheinigung, you are unfortunately not covered with Arbeitslosengeld and I guess the Fiktionbescheinung doesn't even last longer than max 3 months (as far as I know)

When your partner can provide you support with the Dependent visa, then the chances are more , as you get the valid visa (A dependent one) and then I assume you shall be eligible for Arbeitlosengeld I. But I am not sure about the Work Permit regulations once you get the Dependent visa

fatehnkhan

Member since 11/05/2010

 

Posted on 20/05/2010 6:53 am

Re: valid visa for arbeitlosengeld

In 2006 I was receiving ALG I with fiktionbescheinigung that was changed later to Aufenthalterlaubnis, duration of AE was based on the length of payments.

mkorobeinik1

Member since 27/11/2008

 

Posted on 23/05/2010 1:42 pm

Re: valid visa for arbeitlosengeld

@ mkorobeinik1

Could you pls give your email ot tel nr.

Thx

marvin

Member since 28/08/2009

 

Posted on 24/05/2010 6:32 pm

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@ mkorobeinik1

When I went to ABH, the women there, were not really confirmed that , just with the support of ALG , my AE shall be extended. Their Argument was that , since the AE is supposed to be meant for working and, and without AE, shall be difficult to get the AE extended, eventhough I get ALG-I.

fatehnkhan

Member since 11/05/2010

 

Posted on 26/05/2010 5:18 pm

Re: valid visa for arbeitlosengeld

My e-mail is mkorobeinik@gmail.com, I wrote it the other thread about the Aufenhaltstitel I had while getting ALG I.

mkorobeinik1

Member since 27/11/2008

 

Posted on 27/05/2010 5:43 pm

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New update is that, I went to ABH, and my concerned woman confirmed me that as long as I get covered by the ALG I, I shall get my visa extend as I have this AE , which allows me to work any where in Germany.Since I worked almost 3 years, I ll get 12 months of ALG I and therefore 1 year of extension of AE

fatehnkhan

Member since 11/05/2010

 

Posted on 07/06/2010 11:34 pm

Re: valid visa for arbeitlosengeld

thank you all for the comments.
@fatehnkhan-COuld you please tell me if there is any rule or clause that one can get a visa on behalf of ALG. I wonder how they extended it only because that you are getting ALG. Is it true ?
As far I heard, for getting ALG, one need 6 months visa..is it the same in your case?
Do you know any link where I can found information about this. Because in my case it is very difficult to convince the person in the ABH. They are not friendly..
Loser

bigloser

Member since 14/05/2010

 

Posted on 08/06/2010 10:03 pm

Re: valid visa for arbeitlosengeld

It used to be so: as long as you have a valid applicable visa you can get ALG I, no 6 month rule. It's your job to do running between offices to inform them that you have a reason to extend the visa/still can get ALG I/ got the visa extended / etc., so expect some paper work and focus on finding a new job. Good luck, they r not supposed to be friendly, work your case.

mkorobeinik1

Member since 27/11/2008

 

Posted on 14/06/2010 5:07 pm

Re: valid visa for arbeitlosengeld

@bigLoser

Sorry for the late resoponse. Based on the last update where I was informed by the ABH, that I will get my AE extended as long as I get the payements through ALG-I.

Well the thing is going around in my case and is still unclear. My visa is valid only till July 9th. I have approached the Arbeitsamt for ALG-I and they have for sure asked me if I get my visa extended then I convinced them that ''as soon as I get the confirmation from the Arbeisamt that how long I get the ALG-I'', they shall extend the visa, then the Arbeitsamt have issued me the Bewilligungsbescheinigung ( Mode of payments) valid for 1 year of payments.

When I went to ABH to get the AE extended, the woman throwed me the same question.. It is not sure that we shall give you the same AE extended and offered me to give the Fiktionbescheidung for 3 months or some time more. But when I protested against it, she asked me to come tomorrow cuz they do not have a case, where I am granted already the Bewilligungsbescheinigung and they have to decide about if they want to extend the same AE or give me the Fiktionsbescheinigung



fatehnkhan

Member since 11/05/2010

 

Posted on 15/06/2010 2:07 pm

Re: valid visa for arbeitlosengeld

@ mkorobeinik: I want to ask you what kind of Aufenthaltstitel did you have while receiving the ALG-I. Cuz the Fiktionsbescheinigung (FB) is not a Aufenthaltstitel and if you had the FB, then did the Arbeitsamt didnt have a problem in providing you the ALG-I?

At the moment I have my Aufenthaltserslaubnis (AE), under para 18, with possibility of working any where in Germany but valid till 9th of July and my contract is about to end on June 30. The ABH, is thinking of giving me a Fiktionsbescheinigung for 6 months even though I protested against it to give me the normal extension of my AE as I have received the Bewilligunsbescheinigung from Arbeitsamt to pay me ALG-I for 12 months and I have right over it. They say that the AE is only when I have a valid job / contract and they have no other choice than giving me the 6 month FB. I consulted an Immigration personal and they say that, the Arbeitsamt might give me a problem when they come to know that I have not got an Auftenhaltstitel but just a FB and therefore would stop paying my ALG-I.

fatehnkhan

Member since 11/05/2010