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Status in Germany after 5.5 years
Posted on 19/03/2009 11:19 pm
Status in Germany after 5.5 years
Hello all,
I would appreciate if someone of you could throw light on my status. I had been following the threads here though I am new here.. and now am interested in knowing how does it work for me ?
I worked in Germany in R&D in a university from 07.2003 to 06.2005 with "Aufenthaltsbewilligung" and 'paid no taxes' as I was on a research fellowship. Later, since 06.2005 till 09.2008 worked in a research firm (Wi. Mitarbeiter) on "Aufenthaltserlaubnis 18 AufenthG" and paid Taxes normally. And later on have been working for a private company since 09.2008 till now but have got a visa from this company which was issued for the first year only and that too valid only for that particular company.
It means by now I have already finished 3.75 years under "Aufenthaltserlaubnis 18 AufenthG" and 1.75 years under "Aufenthaltsbewelligung". So is there anything that I could do now to improve my workpermit/visa status in Germany ?
1. I heard, I could get BE.. can anyone throw light on how to proceed with the ABH and get BE ? how long does it take to get BE status in ABH ?
2. is it necessary to have BE in order to apply for NE - EG later ?
3. have heard that people have been getting NE even after 3 years or working in Germany .. how is that possible ?
Thanks in advance
luft-fahrt
balajir80
Member since 28/08/2007
Posted on 20/03/2009 9:58 am
Re: Status in Germany after 5.5 years
You are applicable for getting NE.I hope you have a unlimited job contract.
You do not need to have BE or EG for applying NE.
Visit ABH and talk to them.
UMTS11
Member since 02/02/2006
Posted on 20/03/2009 10:24 am
Re: Status in Germany after 5.5 years
Hi UMTS11 
My case is almost the same. I got Visa three months ago but BE not NE. They told me for NE I have to work at least 5 years ( Tax Paying).
They added, your education period is counted half. I was studying from Aug 2003 till Aug 2006. From Dec 2006 till now I have unlimited Work Contract. So they said you are eligible for BE as your study period we take 1 year and from your work, we take two years that satisfy the condition for BE that is 3 years.
If you think, this case still qualify for NE, then please elaborate.
Thanks
herzlich
Member since 19/10/2008
Posted on 20/03/2009 11:02 am
Re: Status in Germany after 5.5 years
@herzlich:
Sorry, what you have written, you do not qualify for NE. You need to wait more.
UMTS11
Member since 02/02/2006
Posted on 20/03/2009 11:09 am
Re: Status in Germany after 5.5 years
1. I heard, I could get BE.. can anyone throw light on how to proceed with the ABH and get BE ? how long does it take to get BE status in ABH ?
>> 2 years paying taxes/working at least for BE, you could be eligible. Process takes around 1 month.
2. is it necessary to have BE in order to apply for NE - EG later ?
>> No
3. have heard that people have been getting NE even after 3 years or working in Germany .. how is that possible ?
>> Not true. Impossible.
AxEnNeSo
Member since 15/03/2006
Posted on 20/03/2009 2:24 pm
Re: Status in Germany after 5.5 years
"Not true. Impossible."
This may be possible only if you are married to a German citizen.
Regards,
Lacrima
lacrima
Member since 14/11/2003
Posted on 20/03/2009 2:31 pm
Re: Status in Germany after 5.5 years
Right, but that situation apparently doesn't apply to him, and in the case of marriage you don't even need to work in those 3 years.
AxEnNeSo
Member since 15/03/2006
Posted on 23/03/2009 2:32 pm
Re: Status in Germany after 5.5 years
@UMTS11
>>You are applicable for getting NE.I hope you have a unlimited job contract.
You do not need to have BE or EG for applying NE.
Visit ABH and talk to them.
Could you please explain how can he eligible for NE?
According to the stay he may be eligible but what about the 60 months pension (rente).
@balajir80
lets calculate
24 (student) /2 + 39 (wi mi) +6 (workpermit)
60 - 57 =3
You can apply for NE if you can prove the stay and paid nearly 60 months of pension.
If you fail on 60 months pension , go to your alien office and ask them , if you can apply for NE, it also depends on City you live and officer responsible .
Wish you good luck !!!
bonupp
Member since 10/01/2009
Posted on 24/03/2009 2:51 pm
Re: Status in Germany after 5.5 years
thanks for the analysis bonupp.
so you mean, since I will finish 60 months in another 3 months, i can now already initiate the process right ?
1) Will th ABH tell me strictly to wait till 60 months are over ?
2) Another important question --- do you know of any of the ABH in Germany, which has recently rejected or put on hold any NE application of a foreigner in the light of economic crisis..
I am worried because, one of my friends lost the job recently (where he had been working since last 2 years). And he could get another job immediately (bright fella) and when he went to the ABH for the new work permit for the new job contract. ABH rejected his application saying -- there are enough german people now in the market who are jobless and therefore they can't issue him a work permit when there are enough qualified german people who are jobless..
Will this trend start affecting the BE, NE and einbuergerung applications as well ?
balajir80
Member since 28/08/2007
Posted on 24/03/2009 3:27 pm
Re: Status in Germany after 5.5 years
balajir80 wrote:
2) Another important question --- do you know of any of the ABH in Germany, which has recently rejected or put on hold any NE application of a foreigner in the light of economic crisis..
I have not heard that but it is very reasonable that they do. I had commented on this several months ago here on this website, after we had heard the financial crisis:
http://www.trust7....e_financial_crisis__3
http://www.trust7....e_financial_crisis__5
http://www.trust7....salary_63000_euro__44
balajir80 wrote:
I am worried because, one of my friends lost the job recently (where he had been working since last 2 years). And he could get another job immediately (bright fella) and when he went to the ABH for the new work permit for the new job contract. ABH rejected his application saying -- there are enough german people now in the market who are jobless and therefore they can't issue him a work permit when there are enough qualified german people who are jobless..
Will this trend start affecting the BE, NE and einbuergerung applications as well ?
Yes of course it will.. This is exactly what I have told here several months ago, I had seen these troubles that time.
Since the number of jobless people in the market is growing exponentially this year, the database in Arbeitsamt grows also exponentially. They must find a job to jobless people first. People who do not have unlimited permit in Germany do not have a chance to find a job. After June 2009 it will be much worse. 2010 even worse.
Therefore people who do not have an unlimited permit must find a job as soon as possible otherwise neither Arbeitsamt nor Ausländerbehörde will approve anything. Jobless EU citizens and Germansh have higher priorities.
All foreigns who do not have unlimited residence permit and who have graduatedy recently have practically no chance to find a job during such a crisis in Germany, because local authorities will always show high unemployed rates as excuse. Therefore, foreigns who do not have job experience or few job experience have no chance in this crisis to find a job in Germany. It will be worse after June 2009. I can't figure out 2010. I know it is bad to say but this is the reality.
Klenze17.
klenze17
Member since 30/12/2004
Posted on 25/03/2009 12:03 am
Re: Status in Germany after 5.5 years
>> so you mean, since I will finish 60 months in another 3 months, i can now already initiate the process right ?
You can also launch the process right at this point, you dont loose anything by giving a try !!!
1) Will th ABH tell me strictly to wait till 60 months are over ?
you need to prove 60 months of pensions although some got NE without satisfying 60 months pension rule . It always depend on concerned authorities.
2) Another important question --- do you know of any of the ABH in Germany, which has recently rejected or put on hold any NE application of a foreigner in the light of economic crisis..
I heard its happening , some are being rejected , some are still waiting for the their new work permits after 3-4 months of processing .
But it depends on you luck.
Good luck !!!!!!
bonupp
Member since 10/01/2009