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Pension refund
Posted on 08/01/2007 2:50 am
Pension refund
Hi All,
Finally i had a talk with Bfa people after my 2 year. I have sent my application(v400) to them and they requested me to send my Passport(Auswies) with my picture in it and validity should appear in your passport and a request letter stating that you need your money in your Checking account or Savings account like that.
Till now this is the main requirement. If any thing comes up, i will post you soon... but i don't think they need more...
regards,
Srikanth from USA.
vsrikanth9
Member since 17/11/2003
Posted on 26/09/2009 11:20 pm
Re: Pension refund
Hi BR,
Thanks for your reply, so do I get that money after I leave from UK say if I leave UK after 2 years? And what's the benifit of transfering that fund to UK pension, I mean in the future. It's just a question please clarify.
Thanks again,
Sachin
sachin100
Member since 30/12/2007
Posted on 27/09/2009 7:41 pm
Re: Pension refund
Hi ,
Would be nice if you clarify with deutsche-rentenversicherung or pension system which works in UK. They will guide you through the process. Once you get the money back than coming to Germany or UK will be difficult for work.
BR
zong4u
Member since 12/02/2007
Posted on 29/09/2009 4:38 pm
Re: Pension refund
I am having real difficult time getting this pension refund. According to Bfa people, they instructed their bank to transfer money two months back, but I have not recd. that in my bank account (in India). Checked with my local bank but they did not receive that money so far. My consultant has written to Bfa guys, but don't know when this will be resolved. Please share your experiences for such cases and what can be done to sort this out quickly.I am told that intermediate bank is Barclays Bank PLC.
simu2004
Member since 21/04/2005
Posted on 29/09/2009 9:35 pm
Re: Pension refund
@simu2004
They have probably transferred the amount to the custodian bank Barclays, where your Indian Bank has an account with them (Lets call the A/c no ABC123).
With every wire transfer you can send a message. The message sent to ABC123 was not complete. So the Indian bank (owner of ABC123), does not know what to do further. You should enquire with the Forex dept of your Indian Bank and give them further details about the money transfer.
stutt23
Member since 19/01/2008
Posted on 17/03/2010 10:57 am
Re: Pension refund
Another helpful link for social security refund for Indians:
http://sites.googl.../socialsecurityrefund
skjain
Member since 27/02/2004
Posted on 19/08/2010 7:19 am
Re: Pension refund
Another helpful link for German social security refund for Indians
http://ssr.germanymantra.com
skjain
Member since 27/02/2004
Posted on 06/09/2010 2:14 pm
Re: Pension refund
Hi All,
I left Germany, after 2 years, for UK, on 30th July, 2009. I was planning to apply for my pension refund. I went to the website
http://www.deutsch...__node.html__nnn=true
but could not find the form V400 there. Can somebody suggest whats the exact procedure if I want to get the refund?
Is it enough to post the documents with V400 form to Deutsche Rentenversicherung department. If yes, what documents need to be attached?
Thanks.
Anand
agtrust7
Member since 19/01/2009
Posted on 02/10/2010 12:38 pm
Re: Pension refund
Hi Srikant and all, I suppose this is applicable for person working in Germany based on contract work through an Indian Firm
In my case, I would like to know regarding the 5 years limit for pension refund
In the following link below
http://www.deutsch...abkommensstaaten.html
India is on agreement list with a clause as "Entsendeabkommen" . To my understanding, it means for "contract based employers from india (onsite)"
Could someone verify if the pension refund of 5 years upper limit applicable for INDIANS working in a GERMAN firm
Thank you,
With best regards,
Ram
rrsguru
Member since 11/04/2010
Posted on 03/10/2010 1:07 am
Re: Pension refund
My research on this topic
http://www.deutsch...gen/sv__abkommen.html
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From the above link, the agreement with india and china says "Hierbei handelt es sich um sogenannte Entsendeabkommen. Diese sehen vor, dass für Arbeitnehmer, die von ihrem Unternehmen vorübergehend im anderen Vertragsstaat beschäftigt werden, eine Doppelversicherung und damit die doppelte Beitragsbelastung zur Rentenversicherung und Arbeitslosenversicherung vermieden wird. Weitere Regelungen, zum Beispiel zum Erwerb von Rentenansprüchen oder zur Zahlung von Renten, enthalten diese Abkommen nicht. "
This translates from German to English as:
"On this occasion, it concerns so-called "Entsendeabkommen". These intend that for the employees who are occupied by her enterprise/company "temporarily" in the other signatory a double assurance/insurance and with it the double contribution load is avoided to the pension scheme and unemployment insurance.
Also, other regulations, for example, to the acquisition of pension claims or to the payment of pensions,these agreements DO NOT contain ."
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This implies the five year upper limit DONOT apply to india. The special agreement is more towards reducing company(german company and indian company) contribution for an individual sent to the other signatory state and not imposed anyway on individuals pension refund
This could be shown to deutch tax administrator, if he is providing wrong information and confusing, esp Indians in this case
rrsguru
Member since 11/04/2010
Posted on 06/10/2010 4:17 pm
Re: Pension refund
Hi to all,
I have some questions regarding the pension payment for German citizens in other country.
1. Suppose a German Citizen spends his/her life in another country (Asia). I think after 65/67 years pension will be deposited in their account in Asia. For this are they need to visit Germany frequently to get their Pension?
2. Is there any Specific time gap visiting (Germany) to get Pension?
3. If not how can German Authorities know that this person is still alive?
Thank you
Justdoit
justdoit
Member since 11/10/2009