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NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Posted on 13/01/2007 9:29 am
NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Dear All,
What about the new law, if some one gets anual salary >63000 Euro can get NE?
How is it calculated, does it including urlaub and weinacht geld.
Thanks and regards-
ASM
ASM
Member since 25/06/2004
Posted on 03/11/2009 7:22 am
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
@klenze
i have always followed your advise and suggestions, and i find them really helpful.
However I would like to add that, when we talk about jobless people, than hardly 0.5% of highly qualified people are jobless. German economy relies on exports of hi-tech stuff, therefore, highly qualified people are always in demand.
Now going back to people who have problems in past, we must exercise restraint when generalizing this whole issue. It depends on several factors such as;
1- which city or state you are applying in.
2- Sachsen, Bayern, BW we agree are problematic.
3- majority of ABHs in DDR area have communist mentality people.
4- the record of applicant itself, in last 5 years or so, if you already had a bad outing at ABH, than your file is marked and forget about NE or BE or in that case even AE as well.
5- etc etc etc
Off course, unlimited job contract is the only way for Beamter/Beamterin to deny your application.
So the bottom line is, people with unlimited job contract should only apply through lawyers. Contact Detlef and he will be more than happy to introduce you to lawyers with specialization in Aussländerrechts. Good luck and keep us posted!!
Raj2009
Member since 14/07/2009
Posted on 03/11/2009 7:42 am
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Raj wrote:
However I would like to add that, when we talk about jobless people, than hardly 0.5% of highly qualified people are jobless. German economy relies on exports of hi-tech stuff, therefore, highly qualified people are always in demand.
You are absolutely right. But the same official gives permit also to unqualified people at his-her desk. She talks maybe 1 qualified person among 1000s of non-qualified/jobless people. The lady sitting at Ausländerbehörde is talking everyday to so many jobless foreigns or Arbeitsamt talking to so many jobless Germans. Suddenly you come, you say "hey, I have limited contract, but I am qualified, give me an unlimited permit". I don't know it is that easy for someone sitting there to give what you want.. Think that way too... I also experienced similar cases.
You are absolutely right in the rest items in your post.
No matter how, I wish everyone would get this special permit. I advise all audiences to read all the posts in this thread again and again. There is invaluable information about this permit, because there is no such information anywhere else in the world and this permit is so difficult to get that it make comparable to a citzenship application in Germany.
Klenze17.
klenze17
Member since 30/12/2004
Posted on 03/11/2009 11:23 am
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Thanks klenze17 and jivankitalaash for your valuable suggestions.
I forgot to mention that I have already filled the application form and submitted during my first visit to AuslanderBehorde itself. Sorry, I forgot to mention this in my first post.
After translating the letter given to me by the beamter, it said that she requested for some information from federal safety department (probably police) and it will take 6-8 weeks. She also mentioned to bring the photo and passport (with one blank page) along with other docs that I mentioned before.
I have applied only 12 days back. I think I should wait for another 10 days ( 3 weeks to complete) and then contact them.
I will keep you posted the outcome.
srikar
Member since 01/11/2009
Posted on 03/11/2009 11:13 pm
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Again I dont want to create a controversy of press my views upon others but I again contacted my acquaintances yesterday and they confirmed that they have limited contracts and have the same NE §19. This is the case in Munich.
I read the rules again and nowhere is it stated that one should have unlimited job:
http://bundesrecht...ufenthg_2004/__9.html
(2) Einem Ausländer ist die Niederlassungserlaubnis ZU ERTEILEN (you will get it), wenn
1.er seit fünf Jahren die Aufenthaltserlaubnis besitzt,
2.sein Lebensunterhalt gesichert ist (SUBSISTENCE IS SAFE)
http://bundesrecht...fenthg_2004/__19.html
(1) Einem hoch qualifizierten Ausländer kann in besonderen Fällen eine Niederlassungserlaubnis erteilt werden, wenn die Bundesagentur für Arbeit nach § 39 zugestimmt hat oder durch Rechtsverordnung nach § 42 oder zwischenstaatliche Vereinbarung bestimmt ist, dass die Niederlassungserlaubnis ohne Zustimmung der Bundesagentur für Arbeit nach § 39 erteilt werden kann und die Annahme gerechtfertigt ist, dass die Integration in die Lebensverhältnisse der Bundesrepublik Deutschland und die SICHERUNG DES LEBENUNTERHALTS ohne staatliche Hilfe gewährleistet sind. Die Landesregierung kann bestimmen, dass die Erteilung der Niederlassungserlaubnis nach Satz 1 der Zustimmung der obersten Landesbehörde oder einer von ihr bestimmten Stelle bedarf.
and this one defines what subsistence is.
http://bundesrecht...fenthg_2004/__9c.html
It says a regular income and nothing more.
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Again the idea is not to press my view but to make people aware what is in the law. I would suggest that in these cases, one should take a lawyer if you cant speak fluent German because then the lawyer can argue on your behalf.
jivankitalaash
Member since 06/09/2009
Posted on 04/11/2009 9:31 am
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hi jivankitalaash,
we all know that it is not stated in the law that unlimited job contract is not mandatory. Everyone knows but statistically we have seen very rarely in the past that unlimited permit was issued.
Now I must admit that I was very surprised that your friends got NE $19 with limited contracts. I am jealous, honestly speaking. I have got a lot of trouble with my unlimited contract and a lot of qualifications..
Just curiosty: How much work experience do your acquaintances have? In which industry? Private sector? Do they speak German? Did they get this permit through lawyer/company support? Did they study Germany before?
If you can write these things (not too private but headlines) that would be phantastic and helpful for everyone.
Many thanks for your posts!!
Klenze17.
klenze17
Member since 30/12/2004
Posted on 05/11/2009 8:07 am
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hi Klenze,
Well I will give all these details but I personally think that we cannot draw inference from any of them why he got it and the others didnt.
The guy didnt study in Germany rather in UK, joined a financial institution directly after his advanced managementdegree from the UK and was helped to get the NE by his company's relocation agency. I am not sure how much work experience but from his age I can assume not more than 4-5 years.
This all was in Munich. Contrary to what many people think, Munich is actually quite relaxed with visas, workpermits, etc. I have been living in Germany for more than six years now. Came as a student and then started working and speak (fluent) German and have never had problems with visas, NE etc in Munich. The time in Berlin waa a horror in comparison in terms of work-permit.
In terms of citizenship, BW, Bayern and Sachsen are tough becuase of problems in them accepting our study times.
One very informative forum is www.info4alien.de if you didnt know it where all rules are listed. Here people working in Ausländerbehörde, Einbürgerungsbehörde answer your questions on a voluntary basis. Is in German though.
jivankitalaash
Member since 06/09/2009
Posted on 05/11/2009 8:20 am
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Thank you very much for your information. I know info4alien. I am an active user there for a long time, thank you for that though.
Klenze17.
klenze17
Member since 30/12/2004
Posted on 27/11/2009 6:41 pm
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hi all,
Does wife and kid automatically get NE, when husband gets NE through this highly qualified option?
Regards,
Dev
just2it
Member since 17/03/2009
Posted on 27/11/2009 6:56 pm
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hi all,
Does wife and kid automatically get NE, when husband gets NE through this highly qualified option?
No. NE of this kind if finally still yet another NE. The wife of the person who got NE doesn't get NE automatically. She must fill the same condition has her husband to get NE (5 year, high qualification etc etc), as though they were not married. The only advantage she has is that she can stay in Germany through his husband.
Klenze17
klenze17
Member since 30/12/2004
Posted on 21/04/2010 5:56 pm
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hi All,
I just read through all 21 pages of your discussion thread... really interesting.
My question is what is the annual salary requirement now? I was told by someone at the Auslanderamt that its 6400 Euro per month netto, which seems really outrageous.
Second question would be is it netto or brutto? Can I attach a document or reference to "direct" the officers that its brutto and not netto?
Regards...
imrankhan25
Member since 21/04/2010