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Immigration law?
Posted on 28/04/2004 12:09 pm
Immigration law?
Hi noch mal
I´m waiting for the surprises for Friday (new round for Zuwanderungsgesetz).
By the way, anybody knows the last news? Is it true they will kick out if we don´t speak German?
Regards
YO
Regards
YO
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YO1
Member since 17/11/2003
Posted on 28/04/2004 6:53 pm
Re: Immigration law?
Hi YO,
are you kidding? how can a country accept an immigrant who cannot speak their langauge? and how are you going to live without that? for me I need my whole life to learn German because if you want to defend yourself in this country you need to understand their langauge almost completely because of the rules they have. But I feel better with English and it is easy to understand especially the legal terms and I feel I will have much better career where English is official language. So have your options opened? German is not an easy language to learn! just check out those legal words in German .. hooooh it is painful really! even dictionaries won't be helpful I guess 
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bye,
Nitin
nreddy
Member since 09/11/2003
Posted on 28/04/2004 8:39 pm
Re: Immigration law?
Don't sure you will get kicked out but for sure, if I were a decisionner and some1 who doesn't speak the language of my country after 5 years and wants to get a PR saying he is well integrated... I'm gonna kick him out for sure because I think language is one of the most important parts of integration.
D.
NoBody
Member since 20/11/2003
Posted on 29/04/2004 12:36 pm
Re: Immigration law?
Yes, tomorrow is THE DAY.
As I understood they will try to come the a conclusion.
German language knowledge is one of the conditions. I think this is normal.
The biggest problem as usual will be the security issue. I understand that as well, but I hope this will not cause other delays...
Regards,
mac
mac
Member since 24/02/2004
Posted on 17/05/2004 11:33 am
Re: Immigration law?
I am providing you a link that contains the response (http://german-gree....org/ITFachleute.pdf) from Bundesministerium fur Witschaft und Arbeit to a group of Green Card holders who raised their concerns (as published at http://german-green-card.org ) about the 5-year limit of the program and requested some clarification from the government authorities.If the employer does not cancel the
contract there is no reason for the Auslaenderbehoerde not to extend the
visa!
I just want to share this information with you guys and I dont know how much it is true, any info or comments from you?
tauqiram
Member since 18/02/2004
Posted on 17/05/2004 12:44 pm
Re: Immigration law?
At least, this paper is surely of great interest (even if not really official, meaning, not to be taken as a law) for people struggling to find job because of potential employers being relectant to get people who don't have much time left on their GC.
You could bring this paper on job interviews if you feel the interviewer will worry about your time left.
On all the interviews I had when being unemployed, 75% of them failed because of that and this could be of help.
I will keep it somewhere on a place hidden to be popped up in times needed.
D.
NoBody
Member since 20/11/2003
Posted on 17/05/2004 12:51 pm
Re: Immigration law?
Hello
Those germand-green-card.org news are actually "Schnee von Gestern". it was mentioned here before:
http://www.trust7....e_than_5_years_letter
The followers of this forum already well aware that there will be a high chance after 5 years to stay longer
if one has a job at that time BUT this will be case to case basis and there will be no guraantee.
SO what happens if you work 4 years and get unemployed then will you tell your potential new employer that
maybe your residence permit will be extended, if he/she employs you. Who wants to employ someone whose long-term
residence status seems uncertain.
Actually what we need is a clear statement or a "Verordnung" in the (GC) law saying that GC Holders are entitled
to stay longer/get PR after 5 years.(Current aliens law give PR after 5 years anyway..)
If we can not get this clear statement then rest is just story and no solid evidence.
Regards
Lacrima
lacrima
Member since 14/11/2003
Posted on 17/05/2004 3:17 pm
Re: Immigration law?
Its interesting to see that people here are still hopeful on immigration law when even politicions have stopped discussing it.
Buddies, I see nothing in the near future. mr chancellor had only one main point to support his agenda of green card í.e diminishing population but now as EU's strength has grown from 70 millions to 500 millions overnight then he lost even that point.
What I see is that they will not be so rude to throw us out immideately but they will keep extending our visa just like a normal work permit for some time. It will be a filteration process for the people who keeps losing jobs.
So folks I think we should not waste anymore time on it. Right now no one is interested the green color.
uttam
Member since 09/02/2004
Posted on 17/05/2004 3:44 pm
Re: Immigration law?
Hi uttam
I dont give a s**t to the immigration law.. I will get my PR after 4 years
anyway, in case I am still in Germany ofcourse.. 
(Because of the mutual aggreements between my home country and Germany)
I just tried to answer the questions in the thread.
There is another point here.. your arguments are not really true. EU's extension
does not really mean that immigration is not an interesting topic for Germany/EU
anymore.
See this article regarding demographic picture of new EU(including new members) :
http://www.aufenth...tel.de/zuwg/0304.html
Although stubborn right wing German politicians do not tend to accept, Germany
was , is and will be an immigration country. They can postpone the decision
for immigration law and make their voters happy but they will have to face the
reality today or tomorrow !
Regards
Lacrima
lacrima
Member since 14/11/2003
Posted on 17/05/2004 4:15 pm
Re: Immigration law?
Hello Lacrima,
You may be right on the politics going on here over green card.
Also it is a good news that u will get a PR here.
But just for info my message was not targetting you or anyone else.
uttam
Member since 09/02/2004
Posted on 18/05/2004 1:29 pm
Re: Immigration law?
Hi Lacrima,
what do you mean with getting the PR after 4 years?
Are you a EU citizen, from the new EU countries?
Otherwise, which are the mutual aggreements between your home country and Germany?
Thanks,
mac
mac
Member since 24/02/2004
