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einbürgerungstest-fragenkatalog in english
Posted on 09/10/2008 11:57 am
einbürgerungstest-fragenkatalog in english
Hi All,
I would like to ask any one of you know the link for the fragenkatalog(Quessionaire) for the Einbürgerungstest in english. i am sure that i have seen a link some where, all the questions are traslated in to english for a better understanding of it. i know that you might get wonder while the test is being taken in german. But i want to make sure with the questions that i understand them correctly in english and proceed in translating in english. May it a double reading although it reduces the time in memorising 
regards,
SSDKSSDK
Member since 26/09/2008
Posted on 09/10/2008 2:57 pm
Re: einbürgerungstest-fragenkatalog in english
@SSDKSSDK
....i want to make sure with the questions that i understand them correctly in english and proceed in translating in english.....although it reduces the time in memorising...
I have no idea which part of the world produces idiots like you.
You are not able to understand the question in German and on top of that you want to memorise the quesiton rather than trying to understand them.
Do a bit of soul searching and ask yourself if you really deserve to be german.
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Akshay
Member since 21/03/2005
Posted on 09/10/2008 3:33 pm
Re: einbürgerungstest-fragenkatalog in english
Mr. Sir,
Ask first yourself, being an Indian, how come you able to write such a PROFESSIONAL answer. You, as an Indian, or the real Indians have a great renown for their friendly approach, you do not deserve to be proud of a nation you are. If you can answer a question you proceed in doing so, else you want to be a critic of human be in your limits while you exposing yourself being a critic. I do not know you but the way that you express the answer is really creating an impression that what a guy you are. Be turn in a generous man, so you deserve to be an Indian
SSDKSSDK
Member since 26/09/2008
Posted on 09/10/2008 3:48 pm
Re: einbürgerungstest-fragenkatalog in english
Helo,
Akshay if you are not able to find the solutions you can just keep quiet, as far i concerned SSDKSSDK want to understand the questions and read, not like you in memorising the questions and answers. This statement justifies who is an idioit.
So try to be professional in writing down the reply.
i think you wont repeat it
senamb
Member since 08/09/2008
Posted on 09/10/2008 3:55 pm
Re: einbürgerungstest-fragenkatalog in english
Hi Senamb,
Thank you for your illustration of what i ask for.
regards,
SSDKSSDK
Member since 26/09/2008
Posted on 09/10/2008 4:58 pm
Re: einbürgerungstest-fragenkatalog in english
@SSDKSSDK
even if I won't say it as Ashkay did, I will say that I really don't see why you would like to have these questions in English.
"To understand better" could be your answer or one given by someone who will backup your request, but I really think that if you've been 8 years in Germany and for whatever reason (people can talk about working in an English environment and so on...) you can speak properly German or are not able to understand properly what is written in German, then you shouldn't consider yourself for a German citizenship.
It's sad to say but seeing this just makes me understand why all the politics wanted to have such an exam, even if it's not the solution, because they feel like people just don't want to get integrated and are still requesting a citizenship or the right to live on their soil.
I've said it before and I'll never quit saying it: if a person came to me, in my country, and asked me to have my citizenship and I find out that he can't speak or poorly speak my language and don't even understand properly what is said or written in my language, I won't check if he got millions or if he is educated, I will deny pure and simple his request because he is simply showing me that he doesn't want to integrate in my culture and he has the balls to ask me for a right to live on my soil?
I don't know how much proud you have or our much you consider yourself, but IMO it's a shame to make such a request.
No matter what you can say or have towards the requirements for citizenship, for me, you don't fulfill the basic requirement of all.
Kind regards,
D.
NoBody
Member since 20/11/2003
Posted on 09/10/2008 5:33 pm
Re: einbürgerungstest-fragenkatalog in english
@ NoBody
Just let me make you understand here, the reason that i put a question. The officials are not testing the language skills here, the reason that they are coducting this exam is to make sure that the immigrants atleast having a basic knowledge what a German culture is meant for, how the political, law systems are persisting in Germany. It is not that they want to test the language skills. Speaking language in germany is not a big difficult thing but understanding the political or law system in such a German vocabulary is a big challenge. Although one speak german language, frankly speaking, the immigrants will definitely be facing the problems in understanding political / law based german vocabulary. One can go through the questions, find out the meanings for the unknown words in the dictionary(English-German), still that too is what i am asking for a simpler solution such that i can cut down my time in looking dictionary for each term. instead if i found a translated text that makes me easier to understand and remember vocabulary easily and better understanding of the culture/political/law.
Tell me first, how good are you in german? Have you ever not searched in the dictionary for any unknown words? if you are so, then i am sorry to say taht i am not a god/a geneous like you.
At last, this forum is meant for a information exchange. Not for a nasty statements that you make here. Be proud to be a human, as we all belong to one earth, do not discreminate the humans with a silly nationship.
regards,
SSDKSSDK
Member since 26/09/2008
Posted on 09/10/2008 5:39 pm
Re: einbürgerungstest-fragenkatalog in english
Mr. D,
somehow your mail is judgemental, without really understanding the reason for asking Q&A in English. For example if you have test in Russisch or Chinesisch which is very critical to your career, you would surely try to have uebersetzung in Duetsch.
There is a fear of failure & someone wants to master in their Native language. That's it !
Conclusion: It displays how serious that person is to get integrated by putting those extra efforts.
By the way German language is tough for all of us, but we try & try to become one among the Society. Try to be positive & motivate when possible but not the other way. Is Nobody perfect ?
truster
Member since 26/06/2008
Posted on 09/10/2008 6:05 pm
Re: einbürgerungstest-fragenkatalog in english
@SSDKSSDK
Sorry if I offended you because that's not what I intended too.
It's true that officials are not testing here your language skills but your understanding of what "living" in Germany is or could be.
I'm not the all-knowing one, I'm merely nobody and many around here knows that.
I've been on this site since back in the days, and I know what this site is all about. I never came here pretending, I came sharing and I still do until now, some find my inputs worth it, some not, I just share hoping it will help.
What I mostly share is what I know from reading or experiencing while living here for nearly 8 years, I never took the Integration courses even if I was asked too because I never felt that a paper can prove me to be integrated where I live but I feel myself integrated through what I do and what I'm involved in in my every day life.
I don't think that if the officials only wanted to check your knowledge they would have given this test in German, in fact, like the driving license courses and exams, you should have been able to do it in your own mother tongue, be it English or French, or whatever language it can be found.
A driving license is also an official document, isn't it?
So there's definitely a reason why this test *should* be in German.
We've seen it more than once on this forum: people who got problems or in problems because they couldn't understand what the law was stating, even if the law was clearly telling them what it was supposed to be; people who couldn't defend their own rights just because they didn't knew something or if they knew it, they couldn't let themselves be understood by the officials.
What's the gain if you can't understand or let people know of your knowledge in the very language you should be conversing with them?
And in fact, for me, most Germans won't be able to pass this test just because they are simply not interested in things ruling the country they are living in and this "basic knowledge" it is supposed to proof if nothing more than a small angle in their own culture.
You said that although one speaks German fluently, the immigrants will definitely be facing the problems in understanding political/ law based German vocabulary, this has nothing to do with being immigrant, I'm sure you can find laws in your own mother tongue that you can have difficulties to understand, so do I.
I won't pride myself saying that I speak a perfect German, oh no, I won't, I speak fairly good and let the native themselves rate my skills and I keep on learning new words from my kids (kids are the best teachers alive), I sometimes feel myself good being corrected because I said something the wrong way, I please myself learning idioms to be more "in touch" with people around me and I know a lot of people on this forum who can speak good German and are really good interpreting laws, but it's not because they are gods or special, but just because they invested their time learning the language and at the same time, learning the culture and the law. I know more about laws than most of my German fellows, but it is because I take time reading and following how the world goes and for that, you won't say that German is not a must.
Sorry if you think or saw nasty statements in what I wrote, maybe I've said some without realizing it, my apologies.
But for me, I don't even think I will go through the questions before doing this exam, I will just go and this will let me know if I got this "basic knowledge" or not.
I didn't intended to discriminate anyone, but he could be that I misunderstood your request, if it's the case, my bad.
@truster
if I had an exam in Chinese, it would have implied that I've learned or have been learning Chinese, why would I then have to get a translation in another language to do it?
I never did a German course but when my wife did, she told me that they discouraged them to use German-"place your mother tongue here" and "place your mother tongue here"-German dictionaries when searching for the meaning of a word but to use normal German dictionaries, with sometimes easy German words to get the meaning. There's surely a reason behind that, don't you think?
D.
PS I sometimes look in French dictionaries for words that I can comprehend, even though French is my mother tongue.
NoBody
Member since 20/11/2003
Posted on 09/10/2008 6:12 pm
Re: einbürgerungstest-fragenkatalog in english
@SSDKSSDK
The officials are not testing the language skills here, the reason that they are coducting this exam is to make sure that the immigrants atleast having a basic knowledge what a German culture is meant for, how the political, law systems are persisting in Germany. It is not that they want to test the language skills.
Where did you get this valuable piece of information? I guess for you ZD exam is a test of your mathmetical skills or IQ (semmai).
Misery loves company and as it seems here so does absurdity. It was surprising to find like-minded mindless morons supporting you.
Next thing you would demand Einbürgerungsformular should be printed in english.
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Akshay
Member since 21/03/2005
Posted on 09/10/2008 11:52 pm
Re: einbürgerungstest-fragenkatalog in english
SSDKSSDK
Member since 26/09/2008