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Posted on 19/08/2009 4:16 pm

Legal advice needed for racial discrimination in discotheque

Dear all,

It's my first post here.

I am seeking for a legal advice regarding the discrimination issue I faced when I was denied entry to a discotheque in Würzburg on two separate occasions due to my brown skin color. I am male (33) and I am a student at the university.

First time, I was rejected the entrance on Saturday 8th August 2009. The doorkeepers showed hatred to me and didn't let me in without giving any reason. Later, they pretended that dress-code was an issue. But clearly it was not because I was dressing properly when compared to those who got the entry to the club. I went to Police but they didn't file my complaint regarding discrimination. Then I wrote an email to the owners of the discotheque and complained about the racial discrimination. I got a reply from the owners who apologized for the act but failed to disprove my accusation about the discrimination act. They wrote that next time they would welcome me in the club. I wrote another email to the club owners with several questions, but they didn't reply my email, yet.

I decided to give this club a second shot on last Saturday 15th August 2009, this time I wore a suit. But again I was rejected an entry because one of the staff members recognized my face from the picture I had sent along with the email I wrote to the club owners. Their behavior was utterly disrespectful. Clearly, I was again being discriminated due to my skin color while others were freely let in. The bouncers at the entrance were rude and pushed me away. It was very humiliating being singled out in the crowd. I was not drunk, I didn't shout and I was polite, but this didn't affect them. I decided to raise my voice against the discrimination in a peaceful manner.

As a protest, I stood on the road in front of the discotheque and held a sign "Say No to Discrimination". I got a fair bit of support from
the people passing by in terms of conversations, no slogans or something else. But the persons in charge of the club called the Police.

Instead of filing my complaint against the club or resolving the matter in a peaceful way, the Police took me to the police station and locked me up in the jail. After 4-5 hours, I was then released.

Now, I am seriously upset by the whole event due to several reasons. I was discriminated on racial grounds by the same discotheque on two occasions. The Police didn't file my complaint two times. My peaceful protest was disallowed and instead I was locked up in the jail for few hours as if I was a criminal.

I have checked some websites and found there are indeed some laws in Germany for discrimination issues. I have even read about a similar case in Oldenburg in 2008, where the court gave an order against a discotheque and asked its owners to pay compensation to the person who was discriminated at the entrance.

Please help me with the information about how I can proceed this case on the legal basis or please send any information that you think can be useful in this regard.

Thank you.
Peace.

enigma

Member since 19/08/2009

 

Posted on 22/09/2009 1:33 pm

Re: Legal advice needed for racial discrimination in discotheque

Enigma started this topic with title "Legal advice needed for racial discrimination".He said "discriminated due to my skin color" and "As a protest, I stood on the road in front of the discotheque and held a sign"
So the first thing is this guy should know there is no racial discrimination and protesting is not the way to go with this.
Now finally where is this guy,he just vanished after starting this topic and never responded just sitting and having fun reading what others write

raj2001

Member since 10/06/2008

 

Posted on 22/09/2009 1:34 pm

Re: Legal advice needed for racial discrimination in discotheque

Enigma started this topic with title "Legal advice needed for racial discrimination".He said "discriminated due to my skin color" and "As a protest, I stood on the road in front of the discotheque and held a sign"
So the first thing is this guy should know there is no racial discrimination and protesting is not the way to go with this.
Now finally where is this guy,he just vanished after starting this topic and never responded just sitting and having fun reading what others write

raj2001

Member since 10/06/2008

 

Posted on 22/09/2009 2:46 pm

Re: Legal advice needed for racial discrimination in discotheque

Raju n Akshay I can smell the feeling of jelousy in both of you.Sex is essential part of life,"he want to get laid" ...is repeated by both
of u so many times hell if he wants polygamy then what is the problem?
Going out getting chicks is this a crime?
Anyhow @TS follow what I said ur life will be better.
in short.
be a value give instead of value sucker --> u will welcome everywhere and get respect.
be smiling .
be the part of system or if u want to look different , look better than others.
Have extreme positive attitude which cant be affected by society and others
go to jym it will bring conficence to ur inner core.
And for girls, in short -> be persistance and forget about perfection ---> one day u get what u want and also learn how to get what u want.

@Othe guy who was having problem understanding me.
U need to think different than what society leads u to think .or when ur thinking is directed by urself not by society then u will understand me better.

deathinc

Member since 03/06/2005

 

Posted on 22/09/2009 3:18 pm

Re: Legal advice needed for racial discrimination in discotheque

@deathinc
I think enigma does not have the talent to sit long hours on internet with what you call persistence and chat with some chick's in Germany and fool her with bollywood love quotes then come over from India get married and stay here.
Enigma is a educated talented guy boy not that talented as what you expect so he needs time to learn.
Also going to gymn will not develop and make bigger that inner core,be happy with what you have learn to use it

raj2001

Member since 10/06/2008

 

Posted on 22/09/2009 3:52 pm

Re: Legal advice needed for racial discrimination in discotheque

>>jym Quote>>

Problem with you guys is that u think negitive before even applying.
so if you belive jym wont work then you are 100% right because u believe in it.
evenif you belive 99% that jym works then also it wont work because u have to put 100% believe in it.
haha dont make his reallity directed by u( who himself has a weak reality).

Im happy with what Im and always ready to help ppl with the resources and experiance i have gathered in my life.


Understand what I mean otherwise u will reamin Chode 4 life.

deathinc

Member since 03/06/2005

 

Posted on 22/09/2009 5:08 pm

Re: Legal advice needed for racial discrimination in discotheque

@deathinc

Good to know that you going to gym and putting 100% believe in it to develop your inner core,yes i can understand a German woman needs developed core which you don't have or she looks somewhere else.But believe me gym will not help as its in the genes of Indians to have 5" so don't stretch it too much and damage the core then you cannot even Chode 4 life

raj2001

Member since 10/06/2008

 

Posted on 22/09/2009 10:37 pm

Re: Legal advice needed for racial discrimination in discotheque

This is problem im also facing , not able to enter in one disco,tried 2 times (with group of german friends as well as alone)they wont let anyone from our group,Im polite all the time with them give them shakehand everytime i have to leave from the door.I have befriend other bouncers in other discos,security people.
My problem is that ,I look like and agrassive massive alpha dude which i guess can be the problem or im forigner also.

Anyhow I have befriend some of the regular ppl goes there and next time i will ask the bouncers from other clubs if they can let me enter (hope they have the same security company)

Anyhow u can never win with force or hate with these bouncers,neither involve in too much heated conversation otherwise they will remember ur face.

Love and friendlyness is the only key.
I will update if i able to get in next time and explain what exactly works for me.

deathinc

Member since 03/06/2005

 

Posted on 06/02/2010 11:50 am

Re: Legal advice needed for racial discrimination in discotheque

Ok short update

I was ill earlier so didnt went out ,finally I was fit .Change my looks .remove mz beard which made me less agrassive and more look like an Indian .
Went to again this disco smile on face ,bouncer smiled and let me in,I was then making small talk with bouncer and went out after 15 minutes ,and said hey remember my face i come later im waitng for my friend he said ok.I went to other club .
later I want again to same clube (this time he was not letting people In, guys with no girls or big group only guys) I went smiled he let me in ,i talk again with him ,how its going short story .came to him time to time in between and asked if everything is fine,offered him drink.when I was about to leave ,asked his name do some more talk (he was türk) befreind some other bouncers in club for future case asked their name (important) because next time if the dont let u in and u tell
them their name (its a big deal)
Anyhow Im very very playful with bouncers and Im sure next time I can take my big groups in that same club .

deathinc

Member since 03/06/2005

 

Posted on 07/02/2010 6:40 pm

Re: Legal advice needed for racial discrimination in discotheque

//Anyhow Im very very playful with bouncers //

@deathinc,

why are you so much interested in bouncers,,, buddy look for some gals. .. lolz
you sounds very geek!

subir79

Member since 16/07/2007

 

Posted on 08/02/2010 3:23 pm

Re: Legal advice needed for racial discrimination in discotheque

Its up to u ,u can have ur ego with u and be happy to call me gay or u can put ur ego aside and learn from what i said.

deathinc

Member since 03/06/2005