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Posted on 27/06/2004 12:55 pm
Re: Green Card status
Hi Trusday,
You look a bit frustrated.. it looks like your deep knowledge of german laws were not enough against "Wolf Officers"(your own words) of ausländerbehörde..
Trusday, maybe you should take it easy a bit.. let's face it and accept it.. you dont have the same rights and privileges of a native citizen as a foreigner in a foreign country.. that's the case everywhere in the world.. that's why they call you a foreigner.. I know it sounds a bit against Human Rights.. but it is so..
It is a fact of life as you said..
So you think, they should allow you stay in Germany just because you have filed a law suit against your employer.. and during this time they should pay you social aid (because your period of unemployment benefit is over..) Hmm.. I dont know.. all this does not sound to me doable.. maybe you should have more concontrated on finding a new job instead of trying to find loopholes in the law and suing your ex-employer.. maybe you wouldnt need the social aid at all at the moment.. 
Anyway.. good luck with all this.. and dont loose your good mood..
Take Care
Lacrima
lacrima
Member since 14/11/2003
Posted on 27/06/2004 3:46 pm
Re: Green Card status
"it looks like your deep knowledge of german laws were not enough against "Wolf Officers"(your own words) of ausländerbehörde.."
can a deep knowledge of laws help against a terrorist with a gun? i mean come on, knowledge of laws helps only until those laws are being followed, once they are not followed wins the one who has a gun or?
i mean what would you be able to do against a police if they decide to kick you out and you are alone, although such intentions are unlawfull?
"you dont have the same rights and privileges of a native citizen as a foreigner in a foreign country.."
then such a thing should be stated clearly and human rights abandoned. without any talks about terrorism and so on. i mean what is expected from people when they are treated worse than dogs? that they would accept that? surely not - they will fight for their rights and some of them kill "native citizens" if need be. if so-called "golden milliard" does not comply with human rights towards others, why others should comply with them towards "golden milliard"?
btw Kurds give Turks problems as well, i guess just because of points of view like "that's the case everywhere in the world", am i not right? 
"maybe you should have more concontrated on finding a new job instead of trying to find loopholes in the law and suing your ex-employer.."
do you think i did not look for a new job? but how can i find one, if my employer wants me to be kicked out of Germany, did not give me any recomendation letter? i mean he even said it to me aloud that i will have problems if i try to defend my rights.
I do not care if "that's the case everywhere in the world". all that i know is that i will never be a slave and will fight for my rights, the whole world if needs be. for GCs that means a possible Verfassungsbeschwerde vs. ZuwG, if ZuwG will take away a basic right of §19 GG from foreigners: that is, possibility to file suits to courts of law if their rights are hurt *lol*
lol you have wished me good luck? surely i have lots of it; i have come to Mannheim in 2002 with one bag and 8 euro in a pocket, without ANY knowledge of German language, still all efforts to kick me out for nearly two years have not brought any results it's no problem, i will go further, i can fight for my rights till the end of my life if need be
tomorrow local immigration office will get a justified application for german passport, and a court of law in Karlsruhe - request to suspend an execution of any future deportation order vs. me for a week so i will be able to make necessary arragements (that is, submit necessary applications to courts of law) in the future. Kaplan's case will greatly help me to explain a real necessity of such application. i mean if officials and politicians now think that they should be able to act against foreigners based on suspicions (lol and who gave them an idea? Mr. Bush with his strategy of preventive strikes!), then the foreigners should be able to file suits vs. possible decisions of officials as preventive measures as well
i guess WW III is not long away, and probably even was started, depending what to understand by a starting point
Posted on 27/06/2004 3:55 pm
Re: Green Card status
lol here is an example, just received one letter from a "now impossible" employer:
Wir bitten Sie deshalb, uns vollständige Bewerbungsunterlagen mit Anschreiben, Lebenslauf (bitte mit Geburtsdatum) und Zeugnissen (Abschluss- und Arbeitszeugnisse) zur Verfügung zu stellen.
how do you think, which answer will i get when i do not send a recommendation letter from my last employer, considering that i do not work from november 2003?
Posted on 27/06/2004 4:25 pm
Re: Green Card status
"So you think, they should allow you stay in Germany ..."
lol and i will make one more comment, do not condemn me for it please but in order to allow something, another person needs to beg for it; if somebody has right for something, he does not need any allowance
i do not beg for anything. i have rights and defend them
Posted on 27/06/2004 6:04 pm
Re: Green Card status
Come on Trusday.. If I look at the picture with your perspective then they should issue me the German passport right away..
They are violating also my rights.. so shall I also sue them.. because they are limiting my work-permit to 5 years and they dont allow(yes, "allow"
me to work in a restaurant as a waiter.. or they dont allow me to start my business ?
is "Working" not part of the basic human rights ?
If they can limit it just because I am a foreigner then they can limit the others.. (Do you think I like it ? no, but it is the case)
You are kinda accepting being treated different from a native citizen, by accepting to have "Residence Permit" on your passport.. by accepting a work-permit..(Remember, at the very beginning of your Germany adventure ?)
(who the heck are they and dictating me not to work in another dicipline and just IT.. shall we alltogether sue them ?
ok.. Trusday.. I am on your side.. I am also a foreigner and GC.. but what you are trying to do is kind of " not totally logical thing" to do..
but it is an interesting trick indeed.. maybe I should also flush my passport into the toilet.. and demand german citizenship, because I am suddenly stateless..
I dont know how but I happen to be in Germany..
Please dont ask me how I entered Germany, what happened to passport that I have entered to Germany..
(I will never ever do this.. but I am just trying to illustruate your position from the eyes of authorities
btw.. you mentioned that you are(became) stateless.. right ?)
Anyway.. before I forget to mention..
"btw Kurds give Turks problems as well"
that is true.. but all the Kurds hold Turkish citizenship.. and they have the same rights as Turks.. I think this is a pretty different situation here.. and what Kurds are demanding are pretty different than yours.. (Kurd case is more like the Spain's and Ireland's teror problem.. and I can't blame all the Kurds for this problem.. only a small amount of Kurds contribute to the terrostical organization which indeed creates the problems)
and again.. good luck.. I am on your side.. I just wouldnt do the things in the way you do..
Lacrima
lacrima
Member since 14/11/2003
Posted on 27/06/2004 7:10 pm
Re: Green Card status
"because they are limiting my work-permit to 5 years and they dont allow(yes, "allow" me to work in a restaurant as a waiter.. or they dont allow me to start my business? is "Working" not part of the basic human rights ?"
nope. work is not a part of the basic human rights
"You are kinda accepting being treated different from a native citizen, by accepting to have "Residence Permit" on your passport.. by accepting a work-permit..(Remember, at the very beginning of your Germany adventure ?)"
why? i mean it does not matter for me if german officials issue me a residence permit or a work permit, so long as with those permits i am treated in the same way as german citizens (yes, german citizens not natives just because by now lots of foreigners have german citizenship)
"maybe I should also flush my passport into the toilet.. and demand german citizenship, because I am suddenly stateless.."
i didn't do that: neither i flushed my passport into the toilet nor have i demanded german citizenship. all that was demanded: treat me as a stateless person, or prove it legally that i am not stateless; neither unfortunately was done till now. therefore i have to apply officially for a german passport and once i get a refusal, file a suit to a court of law - then they have to do either first or the second
"Please dont ask me how I entered Germany, what happened to passport that I have entered to Germany.."
why i always answer those questions without problems! i provide complete information to officials, and never they were able to prove that i lied, just because i always tell truth.
"btw.. you mentioned that you are(became) stateless.. right ?)"
sure. just one country did not follow human rights and gave me their citizenship automatically without my agreement, when i was stateless, and after that refused to annulate it. now my position is that unlawfully given citizenship can not be considered as a citizenship because it has to be annulated. corresponding information was already submitted to UN comittee in Geneva
"that is true.. but all the Kurds hold Turkish citizenship.. and they have the same rights as Turks.."
if they accept turkish citizenship, sure, otherwise they have the same rights which Kurds in Iraq have. you see, here is a problem, because Turkey gave them its citizenship without their agreement, they do not want to have it and basically want to have their own State
"Kurd case is more like the Spain's and Ireland's teror problem.."
sure. because in Spain and Ireland there are groups of people as well, that want to have their own State. which does not make them terrorists, but freedom fighters. terrorism - it's just a new word which is used against people by governments and "golden milliard", in order to make a "modern slavery" possible i mean, humans always create new means, but the sense always remains the same: some people want to have slaves who work for them
you tell me you wouldn't do it in the way i do? then you just do not have a problem with existing system and accept your place in it; i obviously do have a problem with existing system, as it gave me the place which i cannot accept. normally such thing is a fate of bastards *lol*
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