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Bfa
Posted on 20/04/2005 11:40 am
Bfa
HI
IN BFA.de there was a link where we could give our social security number and we get snail mail from BFA with how much we payed untill now SC.
Previously this website was in english also , but cant fin dit .
Can some on ebe kind enough to let us know the excat link where we type in our Socila security number
Cheers,Pac
DuPAc
Member since 05/07/2004
lacrima
Member since 14/11/2003
Posted on 07/06/2005 11:51 am
Re: Bfa
CLAIMING BACK YOUR PENSION
The BFA site is one of the worst organised. Looking in to their sitemap at:
http://www.bfa.de/...__node.html__nnn=true
I was able to locate the following page, which elaborates the procedures:
http://www.bfa.de/...__node.html__nnn=true
WHO WILL GET BACK THEIR PENSION, AND WHO NOT?
Deutsche Staatsangehörige
Für Deutsche ist eine Beitragserstattung regelmäßig nicht möglich, da sie auch bei Aufenthalt im Ausland zur freiwilligen Versicherung berechtigt sind.
Staatsangehörige aus Mitgliedstaaten/Abkommensstaaten
Bei ausländischen Versicherten, die die Staatsangehörigkeit eines Mitgliedstaates beziehungsweise eines Abkommenstaates haben, kommt es auf die jeweiligen Bestimmungen im Gemeinschaftsrecht bzw. im entsprechenden Abkommensrecht an. Bezüglich der einzelnen Regelungen siehe BfA-Broschüre "Die Beitragserstattung in das Ausland".
Versicherte aus dem vertragslosen Ausland
Für Personen, die nicht die Staatsangehörigkeit eines Mitgliedstaates besitzen und ihren rechtmäßigen Wohnsitz in einem EU-Mitgliedstaat haben, ist eine Beitragserstattung nicht möglich, da sie bei Aufenthalt im EU-Mitgliedstaat zur freiwilligen Versicherung berechtigt sind.
Bei gewöhnlichem Aufenthalt im sonstigen Ausland können diese Versicherten nach ihrem Verzug aus Deutschland und nach Ablauf der Wartefrist von 24 Kalendermonaten grundsätzlich eine Beitragserstattung erhalten.
http://www.bfa.de/...erstattung__node.html
fred
Member since 15/04/2004
Posted on 07/06/2005 12:59 pm
Re: Bfa
@fred and Others
My german is not so good . Wil it be possible for you or anyone to summarize this for ppl from asian countries. Some ppl are still waiting to make the decission to leave germany before or after 60 month.
So question is , if ppl from asia will work more then 60 month , can they claim their pension money after two year leaving germany ?
Thanks in advance
regards
Tali
tali22
Member since 13/03/2005
Posted on 07/06/2005 2:01 pm
Re: Bfa
As always said in this forum, it depends on the mutual agreement between ur native country and germany. The details are given in the link posted by Fred. To my knowledge, india does't have any such agreement with germany so even after workin gfor more than 60 months u will get back ur money.
vamsi.
vamsi
Member since 26/10/2004
Posted on 07/06/2005 2:33 pm
Re: Bfa
tali
What Vamsi said is right. I am from India too. And since India doesnt have any mutual agreement, we will get back our money.
Which country are you from?
fred
Member since 15/04/2004
Posted on 07/06/2005 5:39 pm
Re: Bfa
@fred
I am from Pakistan. Does this rule apply to Pakistan as well. As I don’t know Pakistan has any agreement with Germany or not.
Thanks all for replying.
Regards
Tali
tali22
Member since 13/03/2005
Posted on 07/06/2005 7:00 pm
Re: Bfa
@Tali,
Yes, Pakistan too does not have any agreement with DE. Rather, you may say 3-WC(pl. read as 3rd World Countries) have no such agreement. I am not sure about Turkey.
FYI, I had already posted such information in this forum.
http://www.trust7....ersicherung_refund__2
GC
A.T
Member since 14/01/2004
Posted on 07/06/2005 7:20 pm
Re: Bfa
Turkey has such an agreement with Germany.
Regards,
Lacrima
lacrima
Member since 14/11/2003
Posted on 08/06/2005 10:29 am
Re: Bfa
I had written an email to the BfA, stating that I was unable to locate the forms(Formularen) for applying the refund of pension. And to my pleasant surprise a kind lady called me up (!!!) and told me that I could find them under:
http://www.bfa.de/...__node.html__nnn=true
And if I needed any personal assistance, I could go to the nearest BfA office.
fred
Member since 15/04/2004