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Average salary for an electrical engineer
Posted on 25/01/2009 7:02 pm
Average salary for an electrical engineer
Hi folks,
Can anybody tell me about the salary expectation for a job in a microelectronics company with 2.5 year work exp ?
I have a masters degree in electronics engineering. I design analog chips ( integrated circuits ) in a German company.
With Regards,
Buetino
buetino
Member since 11/06/2008
Posted on 27/01/2009 11:46 am
Re: Average salary for an electrical engineer
@ buetino:
How come you know the salaries of your colleagues? Is it allowed to tell your salary to some of your colleagues? It is not allowed in most of the companies....
xyxyxy
Member since 16/06/2005
Posted on 27/01/2009 12:03 pm
Re: Average salary for an electrical engineer
Hi Buetino,
This is very common in small German companies where you feel you are discriminated given the dependencies one has got as Auslaender owing to Visa restricted to employer/ finding new job is not as easy and so on..
From my past experience, you are a little bit better at 3150/month , I started at 2850 and my boss/manager/CEO said that its the normal for a fresh graduate , though I know my friends starting at 40k per yr and more..
As I was doing my praktikum/thesis for an year and I was abt to leave , they offered me the job and later on worked for 2 yrs with no increments/bonus.
My visa was dependent on the company and getting new visa to new company with arbeitsamt check and bureaucracy, I thought to stay back and my boss knows it very well.
Day to day I was becoming critical to the company and I started playing my cards and from time to time and hinted to leave and eventually left to a bigger firm.
It was not the money though I gained but the experience of learning everything in a German company.
For NE, its not necessarily 85.5k(now changed to 64.3k) but with 5yrs of working/tax paying you can get it easily with any salary.
For sure, there is exploitation, you may not rule that out but just wait for your time and play the game. Search for jobs outside, see that your visa is independent and once u make sure u r ready, feel free to take off.
You might ask your manager to review your salary structure,rather than comparing with colleagues.
If you get good deal , all good.
cheers
rajendrak
Member since 23/06/2008
Posted on 27/01/2009 12:06 pm
Re: Average salary for an electrical engineer
@buetino:
I am not elec engg though 
rajendrak
Member since 23/06/2008
Posted on 27/01/2009 3:22 pm
Re: Average salary for an electrical engineer
I wrote:
I am a digital chip design engineer, design integrated circuits, which is very close to your area.
An engineer in my area with an experience of 2,5 years has max. 45000 Euro per annum.
Buetino wrote:
Recently a non-German PhD guy joined our company as an RF IC design engineer. His starting salary is 3800 euro/month , that is , 456000 euro per year.
I thought that the salary for a fresh PhD guy should be higher.
I think it should be 45.600 year, not 456.000.
Even in our area (electronics/microelectronics) the metrics might be quite different. An academic title does not always have a good salary. Finally it is the experience/personality what is playing a role.
According to my 12 years of experience in private sector I can say that the start salary is also highly dependent from the your reputation in the interview, ie. how you have represented yourself, how you could "sell yourself". This is finally more important than an academic title.
Buetino wrote:
Another issue is about salary level to get NE. This level is 85.500 €. If the engineer's salary rises so slowly ( starting is 40K , with 2.5 year exp is 45K ) , when will he reach this 85K level ? How to reach that level quickly ?
Firstly this 85.500 Euro does not exist any more. According to the new law which is effective starting 01.01.2009, it has been 63.600 Euro. I have addressed this law change several times on this site.
Salary rise is slowly if he/she shows ordinary performance and his/her salary is increased according to the negotations of the company with work unions.
To the salaries in this level, you must show extraordinary performance at work. In this case Germans will grant you with higher grade, resulting a salary increment out of seasonal/yearly regular increments. This is true for all companies in the world. Everone in the world people are granted if they show extraordinary performance.
Buetino wrote:
By the way, is there any German discussion forum or yahoo group for the IC designers ? I need to share my frustration as well as hopes with other IC designers in Germany.
There is not. Salary stuff is a very sensitive subject. People do not like to comment on this very much. However there are article in electronics magazines like EE-Times which have statistics on it but I am sure nobody will comment on his/her salary very openly.
Klenze17.
klenze17
Member since 30/12/2004
Posted on 27/01/2009 3:33 pm
Re: Average salary for an electrical engineer
Salary Salary Salary if he remained frustrated and stressed like this in future, he will indeed get shortcircuited soon.then he wont be getting what he is getting now.
Moral of the story is ....dont get affected,jelouse by other success or work .Notice preciesly what they have that u dont have learn from them implement it in ur life and go further.
Its as simple as doing Masterbation
deathinc
Member since 03/06/2005
Posted on 28/01/2009 7:30 pm
Re: Average salary for an electrical engineer
Hi Rajendrak,
You have felt my pain precisely !! Thanks a lot for your insightful advice. I would like to request you to clarify some of your comments.
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This is very common in small German companies where you feel you are discriminated given the dependencies one has got as Auslaender owing to Visa restricted to employer/ finding new job is not as easy and so on..
My visa was dependent on the company and getting new visa to new company with arbeitsamt check and bureaucracy, I thought to stay back and my boss knows it very well.
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Only after getting a NE , I will be able to be independent of the employer. Am I right ?
With an NE its much easier to hop from one company to another , no Arbeitsamt check. Isn't it ?
With Regards,
Buetino
buetino
Member since 11/06/2008
Posted on 28/01/2009 7:46 pm
Re: Average salary for an electrical engineer
@buetino
Prior to getting your NE, you could get a BE (Beschäftigungs Erlaubnis), which itself is an "Employer-Independent" work permit.
Nowadays, one could get this BE permit 2Y after working in Germany. You can then safely hop from one job to another - no need to inform Arbitsamt.
HTH...
Cheers.
EssKay
Member since 05/06/2008
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