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Permanent Visa
Posted on 02.05.2004 08:46
Permanent Visa
Hi All,
Till now I was one of many silent followers of trust7 forums. I am a GC from Frankfurt. I came to Germany in 1999 on a work permit that later got converted to a Green Card. As my 5 years stay in Germany is completed this year (April), I have applied to the alien office for a permanent visa. The process seems to be completed now, but final decision is pending on my interview with them, scheduled within next weeks. I was told that in the interview they want to test my word-of-mouth comfortability with German language. My German language skills are limited to so-called supermarket German. I wanted to know that does somebody have experience with this PR stuff and any idea how strict the authorities are with the language.
rds
kds
kds
Member since 02.05.2004
Posted on 02.05.2004 14:23
Re: Permanent Visa
Hi dude,
hope you got it right and good luck.
As far as I know, this will first be on your ability to understand what people will tell you during the interview and the way you respond, because this will be relevant to your degree of comprehension and they will give you a newspaper with 3 articles from which you will have to choose, they different in length and for sure, the shorter the article, the more complicated it will be and you will have to synthetize the article you will read in your own words.
Dunno more but don't take my words as law, it's all I've been said but never checked to know if it's true or not.
D.
NoBody
Member since 20.11.2003
Posted on 03.05.2004 09:41
Re: Permanent Visa
Hi kds,
Good luck for your German test!
When you'll have time please share with us what were the necessary steps you've made for a permanent visa.
Regards,
mac
mac
Member since 24.02.2004
Posted on 03.05.2004 20:51
Re: Permanent Visa
Hi,
The process and criteria for applying for Permanent visa are -
Criteria
1. 5 years stay in Germany (day counting starts from the time one gets his first residence permit.
2. A job contract. Unlimited is better. Some companies issue unlimited contracts to GC like Siemens whereas others like mine have objection to it.
Process
1. Contact you local aliens office. They could be normally contacted also via e-mail. Get an appointment.
2. You will need to will a form named "Antrag auf verlängerung einer Aufenthaltgenehmigung". This form is also available in English language
3. Along with the form or later you will need to submit also other documents namely - house rent, last 3 months salary slip, Current valid work permit.
4. After submitting the documents, the authorities will need roughly 4-6 weeks for checking (this also includes police clearance). Once there process is completed, they will inform you.
5. Now after making an appointment you would be required to go there. In this interview they are suppose to take your German language comfort ability test. The requirement is of einfach deutsch.
6. Also in the interview the authorities want to look at your job stability. People told me that it is better to take your boss along as it gives a good impression. Well I am doing this, is this good or not, would tell you later.
kds
Member since 02.05.2004
Posted on 04.05.2004 00:06
Re: Permanent Visa
Hello kds,
thanks very much for your detail information. Can you tell me, which kind of work permit do you have? Is "Arbeitsberechtigung" or "Arbeitserlaubnis" with time limit and only for your current company. If it is "Arbeitserlaubnis", how long is it valid?
Our problem is, our current workpermit "Arbeitserlaubnis" is no more valid, if we apply for permanent Visa after stay 5 years in Germany. Can you give us the information? thanks very much. good luck for you.
GC-Holder100
GC-Holder100
Member since 27.03.2004
Posted on 04.05.2004 07:14
Re: Permanent Visa
Hi,
My workpermit is Arbeitserlaubnis currently ending on 04/2006 and bound to the specific employer. You mentioned it right that getting a permanent visa would cancel my current work permit and also my current contract with my employer.
I have already communicated this to my company, they would issue my another contract after I get my PR.
Do you forsee any problems in this??.
rgs
kds
kds
Member since 02.05.2004
Posted on 04.05.2004 09:18
Re: Permanent Visa
Hi kds,
Great information, thanks! Thanks and Good luck!
We are waiting for good news from you.
Regards,
mac
mac
Member since 24.02.2004
Posted on 04.05.2004 09:24
Re: Permanent Visa
HI,
After hearing at you, I really don't understand why we (Greencardlers) are keen in knowing of developements in immigration law??
It seems I misunderstood either you did.
Total confusion.Anyway I wish you best of luck.
keep updating.
Jelda
jelda
Member since 22.12.2003
Posted on 04.05.2004 10:27
Re: Permanent Visa
Hi jelda,
As I came before Green card scheme (on a normal work permit) was launched, I have a valid work permit valid till 2006 whereas I have completed my 5 years stay this year itself. By German Law anybody who has stayed in Germany for 5 years becomes eligible to apply for a PR visa.
All people who came with the Green Card have a problem that their work permit would be ending at 5 years exactly. This puts the GCs in unfavorable condition and its also too much of risk to wait for the last moment.
rds
kds
kds
Member since 02.05.2004
Posted on 04.05.2004 11:09
Re: Permanent Visa
Hi,
Jelda, we are so keen on Immigration law because this could help us GCs to get an extension of our work and residence permit.
With the Immigration law (if it will be voted) we can apply for these extensions beginning with August 2005.
Also the current aliens law (AuslG), permits us to get such extensions but is more tricky, because you have to know some laws... and wait exactly 5 years...
Rds, have you applied for a extension of the residence according to AuslG § 24, Abs. 1? Have you done this with the help of a lawyer?
Youve said that you are working since 5 years here, so I guess that your next step will be to get Arbeitsberechtigung, according to SGB III § 286, or not?
mac
mac
Member since 24.02.2004
Posted on 04.05.2004 12:46
Re: Permanent Visa to kds
Hi kds
I guess your post is quite important.
Also to Jelda, last year was loooongly discussed in this forum the meaning of two terms: "Arbeitserlaubnis" and "Arbeitsberechtigung" and the relation with the "Aufenthalts*".
I guess the last conclusion (about a couple of months of discussion) was we, humble GreenCards owners, are impossibilited to ask for a permanent visa (or PR = Permanent Residency) because we have Arbeitserlaubnis and not Arbeitberechtigung.
I think is a very brave action from your side just to decide to go to Auslanderamt to ask for your PR, no matter the opinions of anybody. Only in this place they have the answer. No more theory!
So, really good luck, and thanks to make the first step. I can only do the same in 3 years and something, but me in your shoes I´d made the same.
With the actual state of the f....g law, I guess we are all pending of your results.
As far as I heard, the exam is not so difficult. Allways is related with how sympathic fits you with the Beamter, but the newspaper article seems to be a constant. In addition, VHS in most of the places of Germany dictates one evening course, a couple of times monthly to prepare to this test.
Good Luck
YO
Regards
YO
YO1
Member since 17.11.2003