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NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Posted on 13.01.2007 09:29
NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Dear All,
What about the new law, if some one gets anual salary >63000 Euro can get NE?
How is it calculated, does it including urlaub and weinacht geld.
Thanks and regards-
ASM
ASM
Member since 25.06.2004
Posted on 29.10.2009 20:53
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hi folks,
I want to remind you that the least amount of gross annual salary will be 66K in 2010, which must be approved by Bundesrat first. It was 63.6K in 2008 and 64.8K in 2009.
People who already got NE $19 this year are lucky, because it is getting more difficult to get these salaries because of high unemployment rate in current job market.
Please do your applications as soon as possible otherwise it will be more difficult in 2010.
Klenze17.
klenze17
Member since 30.12.2004
Posted on 31.10.2009 21:14
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hello Klenze17,
I live in NRW and I have requested NE under Hochqualifiert Leitende Angestellte.
The ABH official here took my copies of my 3months of Salaryslip, Arbeitvertrag and Mietevertrag. He said no other formulare is required and I am waiting since almost 3 weeks for an Answer from him.
Please advise me if something else is to be done from my side or should I just wait.
Thanks in advance,
Sri
srikiszsi
Member since 07.09.2007
Posted on 01.11.2009 11:14
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hello All,
I am one more silent reader of trust7 and especially this thread, which is very much helpful to a person like me.
I recently came to germany through an indian company and my salary is just above the 64,800 required for NE.
After information from my friends and this thread, I approached the auslanderbehorde at FFM. The beamter saw my docs and informed me that I am eligible, but required the following docs.
1. letter from my company that I am permanent employee and have an unterminated contract
2. letter detailing my position and skills to show that I am highly qualified
3. A form(given by beamter) to be filled by my landlord
4. last 3 months salary slips.
I paid 100Euro and asked to me contact them between 6 and 8 weeks from that date.
Though its almost impossible for me to get letters from indian company(which wants me to go back when my work completes here). It seems from this thread, these docs are not that required, but it is upto the beamters.
So, as of now, I am just waiting to try my luck after 6 to 8 weeks. Any suggestions, welcome !
srikar
Member since 01.11.2009
Posted on 02.11.2009 18:24
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hi Srikar,
as you also said and read, it is actually to the decision of official whether you need take a letter from your employer or not.
Officials/local authorities simple just don't find salary slips and your writing enough. They want to see a letter (a "3rd source/party", which is your employer) that you are really a high qualified person.
You said you have come through an Indian company. The law gives permits only to the workers who are working in a company officially registered in Germany, where your salary is taxed according to German finance system/law. In your case if your company has an office/subsidiary somewhere in Germany then you can get this letter from them.
Otherwise it is impossible to get this permit or very difficult to get this permit.
That you paid 100 Euro is actually a "positive sign" that you might get this permit. This permit costs 200 Euro in Germany. You pay the rest only after the official is convinced about your status in Germany.
Klenze17.
klenze17
Member since 30.12.2004
Posted on 02.11.2009 18:52
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Sorry Sri, I must have skipped your post.
Sri wrote:
I live in NRW and I have requested NE under Hochqualifiert Leitende Angestellte.
The ABH official here took my copies of my 3months of Salaryslip, Arbeitvertrag and Mietevertrag. He said no other formulare is required and I am waiting since almost 3 weeks for an Answer from him.
Please advise me if something else is to be done from my side or should I just wait.
Actually you have done everything they need. You can trigger them I think. You can now ask them about the actual processing status of your application.
They cannot ask approval from Arbeitsamt due to §3 BeschV ( http://www.aufenth...itel.de/beschv.html#3 ). If they did that, show them this law text. Sometimes officials don't pay attention to it and write to Arbeitsamt.
Just ask them your application status and let us know. Then I will give you more tricks how to do it (all of which I already written in this thread). I have NE §19 and helped all the people here in Trust7 who go this permit and also 2 other people with personal effort so I know a little what to do.
Klenze17.
klenze17
Member since 30.12.2004
Posted on 02.11.2009 18:54
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hello Klenze,
Could you please look into my post and let me know if something else is to be done. The Beamter did not collect any fees at all in my case
I live in NRW and I have presently BE till 2011. I have requested NE under Hochqualifiert Leitende Angestellte.
The ABH official here took my copies of my 3months of Salaryslip, Arbeitvertrag and Mietevertrag. He said no other formulare is required and I am waiting since almost 3 weeks for an Answer from him.
Please advise me if something else is to be done from my side or should I just wait.
Thanks,
Sri
srikiszsi
Member since 07.09.2007
Posted on 02.11.2009 18:59
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hi Srikar,
1. The letter which she asked you to get is really at discretion of the officer sitting and dependent on the location. Some ask, the others dont. In general any company would be willing to write you a letter saying Mr Srikar is for example working as a SPECIALIST(this is what they are looking for) IT Consultant in the area of XYZ (complicated sounding) and has a bachelors and masters degree in XYZ.
Noone should be against it as in Germany this employement certificate is something very normal. Its called Arbeitgeberbescheinigung.
2. There is no rule which actually says that you need to have a permanent job. The only thing they are looking for is that you will not be dependent on the social system in the nera future. So if you have a job for lets say next 1.5 years at the German subsidiary of an Indian company, it should be fine.
Once again I am quite sure about this and if the officer says that you really need a permanent job, you can actually challenge it. I would suggest the unbureaucratic way of taking a fluent German speaking person with you and if the officer creates an issue, ask to meet the boss.
3. Yes already accepting the money is usually a sign of the officer seeing some chances of success in the application otherwise they usually say no. They have probably asked you to get the documents and in the meanwhile (3-4 weeks) they will do the security check.
I have the same PR from Munich. If you need any help, drop me an email at jivan.ki.talaash at gmail dot com
jivankitalaash
Member since 06.09.2009
Posted on 02.11.2009 20:32
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hi Sri,
as I wrote in my previous post and as similar application docs have been stated several times in this thread, the docs you have given is enough.
And I repeat: But you must ask them your status. You must give an application form. A permit can be issued/filed/processed only if you fill an application form and sign it. You did not do it, so things might run slowly, which seems so. Also be certain, that they shall not talk to Arbeitsamt due to §3 BeschV.
These are officials from local autorities. Don't expect a fast response from them, like private sector. And pushing them sometimes negatively affects the procedure. However, since 3 weeks passed, you have right to talk with them. Think what you will ask/tell. Therefore be well-prepared.
As jivankitalaash stated, a letter from employer is a regular stuff in Germany. In practive they need a paper from your employer.
jivankitalaash, I'm not in the opinion what you wrote:
2. There is no rule which actually says that you need to have a permanent job. The only thing they are looking for is that you will not be dependent on the social system in the nera future. So if you have a job for lets say next 1.5 years at the German subsidiary of an Indian company, it should be fine.
I don't think that it is easy to persuade officals to give unlimited permit for limited job contracts, because they will always have the arguments "o, in this crisis after your contract is over, maybe you can't find a job and return your country. Why shall I issue it?" I don't think that a person with a limited contract will be issued an unlimited permit. We have seen similar cases in the past for regular NEs, mentioned several times on Trust7 and they all were very problematic.
Sri, Just ask them your status. Tell them you want to give an application form, ask them whether they have talked to Arbeitsamt or not. They can't talk with them by definition of law.
Don't ask "do you need additional docs?" This is always a good excuse for them to lengthen your procedure. Mentioned them what documents you have given and give them an application form.
Keep us informed.
Klenze17.
klenze17
Member since 30.12.2004
Posted on 02.11.2009 22:14
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Klenze
You are right. There is a difference between practise and theory. They do create problems probably for people with limited job but I know counter examples of some people in Munich.
But the reality still is that legally speaking this is not the rule. They have the right to ask you for a 'gesichertes Einkommen' or 'gesicherter Lebensunterhalt' but this doesnt not mean that the job definitely has to be permanent. A reasonable duration is enough. BUt we all know that they look at the whole packet, what documents did you provide, discretion, etc
jivankitalaash
Member since 06.09.2009
Posted on 02.11.2009 23:00
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
I know what you mean. But reality has the last word. I bet no official in Germany will issue an unlimited residence permit for limited contract, especially in this crisis. Even in non-crisis times we have seen that even BE or EG was issued very difficultly for limited job contracts. You can find a lot of threads on Trust7, from 2005, 2006 and 2007. If it is difficult for BE, EG, it will be more difficult for any kind of NE.
If I were German, I would have shown the list of jobless people in the market to the person with limited contract, who applies for an unlimited permit. Even though the crisis is temporarily over, unemployment wave is coming more. In 2010 you will see more jobless people and will be much more difficult to apply for such permits.
We can make a lot of philosophy here. We must focus on practice and must tell the people realistic possibilities.
Klenze17.
klenze17
Member since 30.12.2004