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NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Posted on 13.01.2007 09:29
NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Dear All,
What about the new law, if some one gets anual salary >63000 Euro can get NE?
How is it calculated, does it including urlaub and weinacht geld.
Thanks and regards-
ASM
ASM
Member since 25.06.2004
Posted on 17.06.2009 07:57
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hi,
I have a Daueraufenthalt-EG attained through highly skilled status. (8 months short of normal NE)
Now, I have got a freelancing opportunity (6 -12 months) in the UK which requires leaving my current job and taking up this opportunity in the UK.
1. Would taking up freelancing in UK have any impact on my Daueraufenthalt-EG?
2. Any other suggestions on how to handle this situation better?
Thank you!
vintovin
Member since 28.09.2007
Posted on 18.06.2009 12:12
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hi Klenze,
I got a rejected letter today with the following text..
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Anhoerung nach § 28 landesverwaltungverfahrensgesetz
Es ist beabsichtigt, ihren antrag auf erteilung einer niederlassungserlaubnis abzulehnen.
Sie Erhalten hiermit gelgenheit,sich bis spaetestens 02.juli 2009
Zu der beabsichtigten massnahme und den entscheidungserheblichen tatsachen zu aeussern. Sollten wir bis dahin nichts von ihnen hoeren,sowird nach aktenlage enstschieden.
Zu ihren information und zur naeheren erlaeuterung werden nachfolgend die gruende fuer die beabsichtigte massnahme kurz in stichworten angegeben.
Einem hoch qualifizierten auslaender kann gemaess § 19 Abs 1 AufenthG in besonderen Faellen eine NE erteilt werden. Bold Hoch qualifizierte sind laut §19 Abs 2 Nr.3 AufenthG Spezialisten und leitende angestellte mit besonderer berufserfahrung , die ein gehalt in hoehe von mindestens dem doppelten der beitragsbemessungsgrenze der gesetzlichen krankenversicherung erhalten.
Zwar erfuellen sie mit ihren gehalt die finanzielle voraussetzung ,jedoch ist in ihren fall keine besondere berufserfahrung ersichtlich.
Des weiteren verfuegen sie laut den uns vorgelegten unterlagen nicht ueber kenntnisse,die weit ueber die durchschnittlichen kenntnisse eines universitaetsabsolventen ihres alters und mit ihren berufserfahrung hinausreichen.
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I checked with our company lawyer and he said he will check in his library and discuss with foreign lawyers and get back to me.
But as per the law it is mentioned as "Hoch qualifizierte sind laut §19 Abs 2 Nr.3 AufenthG Spezialisten und leitende angestellte mit besonderer berufserfahrung" which calls for specialization and experience.
We are planning to send a letter to Auslaenderbehorde next week indicating my other qualifications and we are hoping the best.
Klenze, do you think still i have a chance.
Regards
Prlamun
prlamun
Member since 30.01.2009
Posted on 20.06.2009 03:49
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hi Prlamun,
this is difficult situation. Unlimited permit for High-skilled people are given to the people with competent work experience or extraordinary performance/skills. If you cannot show first one, then they can ask you to show them extraordinary skills, like paper or patent.
Prlamun wrote:
I got a rejected letter today with the following text..
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Anhoerung nach § 28 landesverwaltungverfahrensgesetz
Es ist beabsichtigt, ihren antrag auf erteilung einer niederlassungserlaubnis abzulehnen.
This is not rejection. They have not decided yet. They have given you a chance to give an answer to them, so that it will ease their decision.
I have seen a similar case by one my friends in Hamburg. He got similar answer. However his difference is he is a very experienced person (a manager) and he will get the permit with very high probability.
Prlamun wrote:
Sie Erhalten hiermit gelgenheit,sich bis spaetestens 02.juli 2009 Zu der beabsichtigten massnahme und den entscheidungserheblichen tatsachen zu aeussern. Sollten wir bis dahin nichts von ihnen hoeren,sowird nach aktenlage enstschieden.
You must give them a written answer to the mentioned deadline to convince them, otherwise they will make a decision, which will probably be a rejection.
Prlamun wrote:
Zwar erfuellen sie mit ihren gehalt die finanzielle voraussetzung ,jedoch ist in ihren fall keine besondere berufserfahrung ersichtlich.
They did not find you experienced.
Prlamun wrote:
Des weiteren verfuegen sie laut den uns vorgelegten unterlagen nicht ueber kenntnisse,die weit ueber die durchschnittlichen kenntnisse eines universitaetsabsolventen ihres alters und mit ihren berufserfahrung hinausreichen.
They think you are not "old" and experienced.
Prlamun wrote:
I checked with our company lawyer and he said he will check in his library and discuss with foreign lawyers and get back to me.
But as per the law it is mentioned as "Hoch qualifizierte sind laut §19 Abs 2 Nr.3 AufenthG Spezialisten und leitende angestellte mit besonderer berufserfahrung" which calls for specialization and experience.
We are planning to send a letter to Auslaenderbehorde next week indicating my other qualifications and we are hoping the best.
Your lawyer must find a formulation in written form that your work experience skills match high-qualification. For example if you can get a letter from your employer that you have extraordinary skills (you are very high-qualified, you got prizes, you have shown extra ordinary performance) then it is possible to get this permit.
Otherwise it is practically to be rejected.
I am sorry, but this is the reality.
Klenze17.
klenze17
Member since 30.12.2004
Posted on 20.06.2009 08:57
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Prlamun,
How many years of experience you have (in total and in Germany) ?
What is the present role in your company ?
truster
Member since 26.06.2008
Posted on 20.06.2009 11:57
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
truster wrote:
How many years of experience you have (in total and in Germany) ?
What is the present role in your company ?
Please read the previous posts. Prlamun alrady mentioned his experience:
http://trust7.com/...alary_63000_euro__176
4 years of work experience, 1,5 of which is in Germany does not seem to be enough for them. Even though there is no such restrictions in the law, "specialist" or "leite angestellte mit besonderer erfahrung" ( http://www.aufenth.../aufenthaltsg.html#19 ) are interpreted by the officials as though you must have several years of experience or you must have extraordinary skills, as I mentioned above.
I would recommend to talk with your lawyer.
Klenze17.
klenze17
Member since 30.12.2004
Posted on 29.10.2009 20:53
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hi folks,
I want to remind you that the least amount of gross annual salary will be 66K in 2010, which must be approved by Bundesrat first. It was 63.6K in 2008 and 64.8K in 2009.
People who already got NE $19 this year are lucky, because it is getting more difficult to get these salaries because of high unemployment rate in current job market.
Please do your applications as soon as possible otherwise it will be more difficult in 2010.
Klenze17.
klenze17
Member since 30.12.2004
Posted on 31.10.2009 21:14
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hello Klenze17,
I live in NRW and I have requested NE under Hochqualifiert Leitende Angestellte.
The ABH official here took my copies of my 3months of Salaryslip, Arbeitvertrag and Mietevertrag. He said no other formulare is required and I am waiting since almost 3 weeks for an Answer from him.
Please advise me if something else is to be done from my side or should I just wait.
Thanks in advance,
Sri
srikiszsi
Member since 07.09.2007
Posted on 01.11.2009 11:14
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hello All,
I am one more silent reader of trust7 and especially this thread, which is very much helpful to a person like me.
I recently came to germany through an indian company and my salary is just above the 64,800 required for NE.
After information from my friends and this thread, I approached the auslanderbehorde at FFM. The beamter saw my docs and informed me that I am eligible, but required the following docs.
1. letter from my company that I am permanent employee and have an unterminated contract
2. letter detailing my position and skills to show that I am highly qualified
3. A form(given by beamter) to be filled by my landlord
4. last 3 months salary slips.
I paid 100Euro and asked to me contact them between 6 and 8 weeks from that date.
Though its almost impossible for me to get letters from indian company(which wants me to go back when my work completes here). It seems from this thread, these docs are not that required, but it is upto the beamters.
So, as of now, I am just waiting to try my luck after 6 to 8 weeks. Any suggestions, welcome !
srikar
Member since 01.11.2009
Posted on 02.11.2009 18:24
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hi Srikar,
as you also said and read, it is actually to the decision of official whether you need take a letter from your employer or not.
Officials/local authorities simple just don't find salary slips and your writing enough. They want to see a letter (a "3rd source/party", which is your employer) that you are really a high qualified person.
You said you have come through an Indian company. The law gives permits only to the workers who are working in a company officially registered in Germany, where your salary is taxed according to German finance system/law. In your case if your company has an office/subsidiary somewhere in Germany then you can get this letter from them.
Otherwise it is impossible to get this permit or very difficult to get this permit.
That you paid 100 Euro is actually a "positive sign" that you might get this permit. This permit costs 200 Euro in Germany. You pay the rest only after the official is convinced about your status in Germany.
Klenze17.
klenze17
Member since 30.12.2004
Posted on 02.11.2009 18:52
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Sorry Sri, I must have skipped your post.
Sri wrote:
I live in NRW and I have requested NE under Hochqualifiert Leitende Angestellte.
The ABH official here took my copies of my 3months of Salaryslip, Arbeitvertrag and Mietevertrag. He said no other formulare is required and I am waiting since almost 3 weeks for an Answer from him.
Please advise me if something else is to be done from my side or should I just wait.
Actually you have done everything they need. You can trigger them I think. You can now ask them about the actual processing status of your application.
They cannot ask approval from Arbeitsamt due to §3 BeschV ( http://www.aufenth...itel.de/beschv.html#3 ). If they did that, show them this law text. Sometimes officials don't pay attention to it and write to Arbeitsamt.
Just ask them your application status and let us know. Then I will give you more tricks how to do it (all of which I already written in this thread). I have NE §19 and helped all the people here in Trust7 who go this permit and also 2 other people with personal effort so I know a little what to do.
Klenze17.
klenze17
Member since 30.12.2004