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NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Posted on 13.01.2007 09:29
NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Dear All,
What about the new law, if some one gets anual salary >63000 Euro can get NE?
How is it calculated, does it including urlaub and weinacht geld.
Thanks and regards-
ASM
ASM
Member since 25.06.2004
Posted on 28.03.2009 11:26
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hello Klenze17,
Thanx for you update. I have seen, you wrote, that you were supposed to show all salary increments during last years which seems to be too much concern from officials.
I think it is always the best way if you involve your employer in this process since they are in touch with visa-Authority and can officialy talk with them in better way than us.
I have involved my employer in this matter and he confirmed the existence of this Law from officials and my suitability for NE (accordingly 19).
visa issuing authority is in contact with my employer and i am totally not involved in this process. Even my employer asked me to give me passport and photo when official give a green signal.
i would recommend the people, who are willing to apply for NE, get their employer be involved in this process to make it smoother.
The people who don't fulfill the requirement of having total amount of money >63,600 euros for 2008, should not show official the statement about total income in 2008. for them it would be better way to show latest 12 months salary statements with total sum more than 64800 euros.
Am i write Klenze17?
Involvement of employer is the most important action for NE. otherwise you need to fight for every step involved in the process.
tucoduco
Member since 26.03.2009
Posted on 28.03.2009 15:24
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
tucoduco wrote:
Thanx for you update. I have seen, you wrote, that you were supposed to show all salary increments during last years which seems to be too much concern from officials.
That was because of an issue in Anwendungshinweis des BMI. I have explained the reason for that in following post:
http://www.trust7....alary_63000_euro__123
I have informed some officials in Berlin about it.
tucoduco wrote:
I think it is always the best way if you involve your employer in this process since they are in touch with visa-Authority and can officialy talk with them in better way than us.
I have involved my employer in this matter and he confirmed the existence of this Law from officials and my suitability for NE (accordingly 19).
It depends upon applicant. I have been able to manage to complete process without any support from lawyer or my employer. The only thing I got from my employer is just a writing, that's all, then I have gone the complete process on my own. It's up to you.
tucoduco wrote:
visa issuing authority is in contact with my employer and i am totally not involved in this process. Even my employer asked me to give me passport and photo when official give a green signal.
i would recommend the people, who are willing to apply for NE, get their employer be involved in this process to make it smoother.
This is not mandatory. It's up to the applicant. As I stated in one previous post ( http://www.trust7....alary_63000_euro__131 ) the way through employer or lawyer can make the life maybe easier for the people who are not familiar with German law, ability to talk and negotiate the Local Authority officials in German language.
tucoduco wrote:
The people who don't fulfill the requirement of having total amount of money >63,600 euros for 2008, should not show official the statement about total income in 2008. for them it would be better way to show latest 12 months salary statements with total sum more than 64800 euros.
Am i write Klenze17?
I have already explained, what you are trying to address above, as Condition 4 in my previous post: http://www.trust7....alary_63000_euro__138
Some slips from 2008 and some slips from 2009 might be very problematic to convince the official. In such cases it is better getting professional support from employer or lawyer because the law and Anwendungshinweis des BMI do no cover such "tricks". They mention the wording Beitragsbemessungsgrenze, a financial term which is defined on year boundaries, not hybrid tricks you mentioned.
tucoduco wrote:
Involvement of employer is the most important action for NE. otherwise you need to fight for every step involved in the process.
As I said, it is not necessary to involve the employer or lawyer. I could do every step on my own. It's up to the applicant.
Nothing is easy. Anyway, you must fight for every step you need in your life 
As I said in a previous post ( http://www.trust7....alary_63000_euro__131 ), that difficulty to get this permit in Germany is comparable to citizenship application.
Klenze17.
UPDATE: I have updated some parts in my post. Please refresh.
klenze17
Member since 30.12.2004
Posted on 29.03.2009 09:16
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
@ Klenze
Yes, I got this letter!! It was actually a polite request from the state!!
Regards
Rajesh
rajeshspg
Member since 23.01.2004
Posted on 07.04.2009 20:44
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hi all,
I went to Auslaenderbeheoerde today for the NE and I was in turn asked to come with a letter from the employer stating why I am a Hochqualifizierte employee. He also asked whether I have a leitende position. Although my job involves leading technical teams from time-to-time it is not official though.
Can any successful NE holders provide me with a format of the letter you have provided?
Another question is, he mentioned that it would take 3 weeks to get a Ok from (I miss the word ...verfassungs???) for NE. Can anyone tell me what this procedure is about?
PS>
Auslanederbehoerde contact in KVR Munich seems to be well informed and did not take much time except for asking this letter. After 3 weeks, with this letter and a Ok from his "chef" I can get the NE immediately is what I was informed.
vintovin
Member since 28.09.2007
Posted on 08.04.2009 08:47
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hello Vintovin,
Fortunately I was not asked for a letter that says I'm in a lead/managerial position. All they asked was a letter from the HR which says that I draw X amount per month as salary. I would suggest ask your HR to provide you a letter that mentions your designation and the salary you draw every month - Beamter might need thsi for documentation purposes alone.
About the 3 weeks time to get a OK - its a procedure that they send your documents for police verification and other verifications and to get a response from them they take 3 weeks time. It might take more or less.
All the best!
nomad13
Member since 17.03.2009
Posted on 08.04.2009 09:41
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hi...
Thanks for the feedback.
He did not emphasize too much on the Leitende position although it was asked. They would like some points to be covered in the letter that "How the company sees you as Hochqualifiziert?"
And I was told, they don't verify this letter. I showed him the "Lohn steuer bescheinigung" for 2008 and convincing documents why my 2009 Lohn would be higher than require. And it was ok for him. I do not personally like to get a letter stating the salary from HR as the basic salary WITHOUT benefits and variable pay does not come up to the required mark for NE. And my HR would have difficulties mentioning the variables down on paper.
Has anyone else provided a letter answering the "How the company sees you as Hochqualifiziert?"
This letter apparently helps to make a decision whether I am qualified.
Many thanks again....looking forward if someone has provided this letter!
vintovin
Member since 28.09.2007
Posted on 08.04.2009 21:00
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
vintovin asked:
Can any successful NE holders provide me with a format of the letter you have provided?
nomad13 answered:
Fortunately I was not asked for a letter that says I'm in a lead/managerial position. All they asked was a letter from the HR which says that I draw X amount per month as salary. I would suggest ask your HR to provide you a letter that mentions your designation and the salary you draw every month - Beamter might need thsi for documentation purposes alone.
In my case they asked me to bring a letter from my HR/company stating that I am a specialist and hiqh qualifed person and why. Since I showed extra performance at work they have written that in that letter. I also made a patent application and hold a presentation at a university. HR stated this is a sign that I am a qualified person. I have an experience of 12 years, they have also stated that.
These data in the letter were convincing enough to give me NE wrt §19 (Niederlassungserlaubnis für Hochqualifizierte).
vintovin asked:
Another question is, he mentioned that it would take 3 weeks to get a Ok from (I miss the word ...verfassungs???) for NE. Can anyone tell me what this procedure is about?
Auslanederbehoerde contact in KVR Munich seems to be well informed and did not take much time except for asking this letter. After 3 weeks, with this letter and a Ok from his "chef" I can get the NE immediately is what I was informed.
nomad13 answered:
About the 3 weeks time to get a OK - its a procedure that they send your documents for police verification and other verifications and to get a response from them they take 3 weeks time. It might take more or less.
Actually there is no need of "processing time", because there is no check or something. This permit must be given in 5 minutes. Please check, that there must be no approval from Arbeitsamt, because of §3 BeschV. Reference to my posts in this thread:
1. http://trust7.com/...salary_63000_euro__53
2. http://trust7.com/...salary_63000_euro__78
3. http://www.trust7....alary_63000_euro__116
vintovin wrote:
He did not emphasize too much on the Leitende position although it was asked. They would like some points to be covered in the letter that "How the company sees you as Hochqualifiziert?"
Yes, exactly. I have got such a letter. In that letter it says, shortly speaking: "Klenze17 is a specialist and a high qualified person. He is showing extra-ordinary performance" etc. Additionally I did a patent application and made a presentation in a university, as I said above, they have also mentioned that.
vintovin wrote:
And I was told, they don't verify this letter. I showed him the "Lohn steuer bescheinigung" for 2008 and convincing documents why my 2009 Lohn would be higher than require. And it was ok for him. I do not personally like to get a letter stating the salary from HR as the basic salary WITHOUT benefits and variable pay does not come up to the required mark for NE. And my HR would have difficulties mentioning the variables down on paper.
I did the same. I have shown them 2007 and 2008 Lohnsteuerbescheinigung letters
http://trust7.com/...alary_63000_euro__127
http://trust7.com/...alary_63000_euro__138
vintovin wrote:
Has anyone else provided a letter answering the "How the company sees you as Hochqualifiziert?"
This letter apparently helps to make a decision whether I am qualified.
Many thanks again....looking forward if someone has provided this letter!
Yes. See above. Please search my posts in this thread. I got similar letter and it helped.
Klenze17.
klenze17
Member since 30.12.2004
Posted on 09.04.2009 12:24
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
@Klenze
They usually check with several departments(Police, Finanzamt etc..). It took 6 weeks for my NE application.
Best Regards
Rajesh
rajeshspg
Member since 23.01.2004
Posted on 09.04.2009 13:49
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Rajesh wrote:
They usually check with several departments(Police, Finanzamt etc..). It took 6 weeks for my NE application.
I think this is done sporadically. I did not have this check... They do that randomly, I have the feeling... I have some friends in Hamburg, some of them did not have this check... Interesting..
Klenze17
klenze17
Member since 30.12.2004
Posted on 13.04.2009 09:16
Re: NE for highly skilled, anual salary >63000 Euro
Hello Friends,
I know one of my friend who got his NE on the same day, applied under NE for highly skilled.
He got NE from KVR, Munich.
-- Zameer
zameer21us
Member since 22.10.2008
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