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DE Burgeschaft
fred
Member since 15.04.2004
Posted on 24.01.2007 09:02
Re: DE Burgeschaft
Hallo metro,lacrima, mh, max, *
Thanks all who contributed to this thread and especially lacrima, who presented his case as an example.
Yestd. it took my whole day to know exactly what does it mean for someone (who already have done Deutsch-Sprach kurse) and they already got NE from Ausl.amt.
As what metro mentioned, so I started with the long queue in ABH(2-3 Hrs wait) and at the end, the same answer was given, that I already got NE and so I cannot get any such Bescheinigung for Integ.kurs. Though I carry Sprachkurs I-VI and Orientationskurs(without ZD).
Then, I went to EB-amt and luckily, I met the Leiter of the deptt. and he told me that what they actually need to reduce this 1 year is not the "Teilnahmebescheinigungen from VHS" etc or other things, but only this:
- Bescheinigung nach §43 Abs. 3 Satz 2 des Aufenthaltsgesetzes über die erfolgreiche Teilnahme an einem Sprachkurs im Rahmen eines Integrationskurses.
Remember, ABH(assuming to be from BAMF) again resisted that they would not give any such Bescheinigung after NE 
So, tried VHS(where I did Orientationskurs) and not from the VHS(where I did Sprachkurse)and, I came to know that as if the Sprachkurse had no value or meaning for them(due to other VHS brach)
Here, I remembered a book 'der geteilte Himmel'
So, for those, who plan to follow with their further study, try to do it from same VHS to avoid such bad experience.
Then, as usual, after exchange of some difficult-sentence , it was found that there is another Bescheinigung, but this is to be given for those, who do Integ.kurs from BMAF., where it is written the six courses as well as orientations kurs.
It would have been the best thing to get, but unfortunately there was written some other §14 Abs. 4 IntV. and not the one, I was referred.
The Leiter at VHS talked with the Leiter at EB-amt and so it was decided that if nothing is found, then I should do ZD.
Now, while, the Leiter-VHS was keeping all the so-called important documents back, suddenly there was found a letter in the corner, and that was the one with two lines and the above mentioned article §43 Abs. 3 Satz 2.
Now, it is agreed that I would do the ZD and then under special circumstances might be able to get that Bescheinigung (provided that letter is still there in the same corner )
So, from the whole day effort, I wanted to share it so that others dont waste time to do the whole Integrationskurs and what they require (as Lacrima) also mentioned to do the ZD and Orientationskurs and especially dont forget to ask your EB-amt, whether they also require the same $43 Abs. 3 Satz 2 or some other bla bla
Because, only with such a Bescheinigung, could 1 year be reduced. Otherwise, the rest is meaningless.
Anyhow, doing ZD would avoid any further Language-tests at the EB-amt (Grapes are sour)
Gruss,
A.T
fred
Member since 15.04.2004
Posted on 24.01.2007 15:45
Re: DE Burgeschaft
@fred
This will save you lot of Aspirins and "happy" faces of the officials here...like ABH, VHS etc.
Are you implying that last 7 years were any different?
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Posted on 24.01.2007 16:21
Re: DE Burgeschaft
@Akshay:
I meant the (relatively) trouble-free period after getting NE 
fred
Member since 15.04.2004
raj
Member since 27.01.2004
raj
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